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Handbook of Covid-19 Prevention and Treatment from Hospital with 0% fatality [pdf]

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Re: Handbook of Covid-19 Prevention and Treatment from Hospital with 0% fatality [pdf]

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I would welcome a handbook like this for individual or family use at home if hospitals become overwelmed and can no longer accommodate even seriously ill patients. The featured handbook looks very useful, but it's written for medical professionals in a hospital setting. I'm thinking about a handbook with instructions on how to do life critical procedures as best as possible with the resources one might have at home .…

as best as possible with the resources one might have at home. Previous comment by me along those lines: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22595343 I skimmed the home care thing posted by someone else. It said to use paper towels instead of towels to dry your hands. I almost never use towels to dry my hands. If you use paper towels, flush them down the toilet. (Assuming it won't be a plumbing problem. I can't do t…

What is lung clearance?

Re: Handbook of Covid-19 Prevention and Treatment from Hospital with 0% fatality [pdf]

#42

Why does everyone want to reduce the fever with pills? The immune system works best when there is a fever and if you suppress it you are just trading long term complications for short term relief. In the Covid-19 case it would IMO be much better to drink lots of fluids and just let the fever run its course. I'm not a doctor so you shouldn't listen to me, listen to the awesome Dr Campbell instead, https://www.youtube.…

Most of the proximate-causes of death from COVID-19 come from the immune system in overdrive killing healthy cells in addition to infected ones.

Not sure you want a stronger immune system in that case; you probably want to reduce inflammation directly.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

as best as possible with the resources one might have at home. Previous comment by me along those lines: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22595343 I skimmed the home care thing posted by someone else. It said to use paper towels instead of towels to dry your hands. I almost never use towels to dry my hands. If you use paper towels, flush them down the toilet. (Assuming it won't be a plumbing problem. I can't do t…

What is lung clearance?

From GP's linked comment:

"9. Lung clearance is a standard means to treat serious lung conditions and keep airways open. A simple means to do this is stand in the shower with your feet about shoulder width apart, bend over as far as you can and cough hard."

Re: Handbook of Covid-19 Prevention and Treatment from Hospital with 0% fatality [pdf]

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

as best as possible with the resources one might have at home. Previous comment by me along those lines: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22595343 I skimmed the home care thing posted by someone else. It said to use paper towels instead of towels to dry your hands. I almost never use towels to dry my hands. If you use paper towels, flush them down the toilet. (Assuming it won't be a plumbing problem. I can't do t…

What is lung clearance?

From my previous comment linked above:

9. Lung clearance is a standard means to treat serious lung conditions and keep airways open. A simple means to do this is stand in the shower with your feet about shoulder width apart, bend over as far as you can and cough hard.

In other words, anything that helps get phlegm and fluid out of the lungs. If you are doing lung clearance at home, you don't want to, say, mechanically suction out the lungs because you probably don't have the means to properly sterilize the equipment. Non invasive methods that don't require equipment are best for home care. Lots of people with lung issues end up very sick or dead because their home care equipment is not adequately maintained and grows nasty stuff which then gets delivered directly into the lungs.

Re: Handbook of Covid-19 Prevention and Treatment from Hospital with 0% fatality [pdf]

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Looks like the handbook was funded by Jack Ma and Alibaba. There's also an online forum setup for doctors https://covid-19.alibabacloud.com/

Props to Jack. This, along with his donation of a million masks and half million testing kits, shows selfless entrepreneurship.

It’s naive to think Ma did it alone and purely out of the goodness of his heart. Chinese government and Chinese businesses and their owners are one and the same.

Re: Handbook of Covid-19 Prevention and Treatment from Hospital with 0% fatality [pdf]

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Why does everyone want to reduce the fever with pills? The immune system works best when there is a fever and if you suppress it you are just trading long term complications for short term relief. In the Covid-19 case it would IMO be much better to drink lots of fluids and just let the fever run its course. I'm not a doctor so you shouldn't listen to me, listen to the awesome Dr Campbell instead, https://www.youtube.…

Most of the proximate-causes of death from COVID-19 come from the immune system in overdrive killing healthy cells in addition to infected ones. Not sure you want a stronger immune system in that case; you probably want to reduce inflammation directly.

Experts seem to rapidly change of opinion about that :

https://www.sciencealert.com/who-recommends-to-avoid-taking-...

Actually not sure who to trust about this anymore.

Re: Handbook of Covid-19 Prevention and Treatment from Hospital with 0% fatality [pdf]

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post #32

Why not try Herbs which were proven to cure people even during the 1918 Spanish Flu. Lomatium Root was used during that time with success. http://debrasnaturalgourmet.com/lomatium-root-possibly-the-b...

because generations of the smartest spent their career on something scientifically proven to be far better - it is called modern medicine.

Re: Handbook of Covid-19 Prevention and Treatment from Hospital with 0% fatality [pdf]

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post #27

It's probably wise to take survivorship bias into account here. Also, I think the focus is on the wrong data point. Wouldn't it be better to look at hospitals with the best/fastest recovery rate? Or look at hospitals with the highest fatality rates to understand what specifically is causing that?

> survivorship bias

More like location bias. This hospital is near Alibaba HQ and likely have previous cooperation with Alibaba Health

Re: Handbook of Covid-19 Prevention and Treatment from Hospital with 0% fatality [pdf]

#50

Why does everyone want to reduce the fever with pills? The immune system works best when there is a fever and if you suppress it you are just trading long term complications for short term relief. In the Covid-19 case it would IMO be much better to drink lots of fluids and just let the fever run its course. I'm not a doctor so you shouldn't listen to me, listen to the awesome Dr Campbell instead, https://www.youtube.…

Fever works well for dealing with bacteria, not with cytokine storm induced pneumonia, which is what covid induces
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