Handbook of Covid-19 Prevention and Treatment from Hospital with 0% fatality [pdf] • Hacker News Board

Re: Handbook of Covid-19 Prevention and Treatment from Hospital with 0% fatality [pdf]

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Post by atomi » Thu, Mar 19, 2020, 4:38 AM UTC

vikramkr wrote: post #20

pdq wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Props to Jack. This, along with his donation of a million masks and half million testing kits, shows selfless entrepreneurship.

Not sure why you're getting downvoted. Philanthropy is philanthropy, and i don't see anything wrong with appreciating when someone does something good.

The philanthropy is certainly admirable and appreciated, though, it shouldn't immediately discount intent for those whose job it is to worry about stuff like that.

But personally, I do think it's pretty clearly well intentioned on it's face. And I'm very thankful this is out and I hope it saves lives.

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Post by dragonsh » Thu, Mar 19, 2020, 4:40 AM UTC

While posting this link was thinking, if this book can be done in restructured text with pdf generated using sphinx and subsequently extend it for country specific conditions and language with the help of local medical staff. It can become a very helpful knowledge base which can be referred to by practitioners and will be very useful for developing countries and clinics in remote areas.

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Post by ddeck » Thu, Mar 19, 2020, 4:41 AM UTC

narrator wrote: post #15

I wonder if the U.S is going to use these drugs or if most docs will be too conventional to use these drugs off label. "Antiviral Treatment... lopinavir/ritonavir (2 capsules, po q12h} combined with arbidol (200 mg po ql 2h)...chloroquine phosphate can be used on adults... Interferon nebulization Darunavir/cobicistat hdarunavir/ cobicistat (1 tablet qd) or favipiravir (starting dose of 1600 mg followed by 600 mg tid)…

>I wonder if the U.S is going to use these drugs or if most docs will be too conventional to use these drugs off label.

Domestic therapeutic recommendations from a number of European countries (e.g. France, Italy, Switzerland, Belgium) includes use of these medications, so I think it likely they will.

e.g. Belgium:

https://epidemio.wiv-isp.be/ID/Documents/Covid19/COVID-19_In...

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Post by Animats » Thu, Mar 19, 2020, 4:47 AM UTC

lqs469 wrote: post #9

That's a serious handbook about prevention and treatment, whoever to medical professionals or normal people. And it's more valuable to those medical in the fire line now, You still can watch the news about doctors or nurses treating potential patients without masks or any protect suit. It is a high risk to anyone, Once hospitals been infected even overwhelmed, We will be a very dangerous situation. Perhaps People pan…

Yes. This is seriously useful information. This is how supportive treatment to get patients though the illness is done, from people who have done it. It's a very complex process. There are drugs and treatments which help, but only when accompanied by elaborate testing and monitoring. This hospital has worked out how to do this for a large number of patients. They have a dedicated facility that does only this. That's needed.

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Post by justlexi93 » Thu, Mar 19, 2020, 4:47 AM UTC

Home quarantine for two weeks or until I can finally hear the news that 0 cases for Covid-19. I am keeping the house clean and so as myself.

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Post by hkai » Thu, Mar 19, 2020, 4:50 AM UTC

narrator wrote: post #15

I wonder if the U.S is going to use these drugs or if most docs will be too conventional to use these drugs off label. "Antiviral Treatment... lopinavir/ritonavir (2 capsules, po q12h} combined with arbidol (200 mg po ql 2h)...chloroquine phosphate can be used on adults... Interferon nebulization Darunavir/cobicistat hdarunavir/ cobicistat (1 tablet qd) or favipiravir (starting dose of 1600 mg followed by 600 mg tid)…

Arbidol is totally fake Russian medicine though, shame on China for falling for the scam.

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Post by jb775 » Thu, Mar 19, 2020, 4:51 AM UTC

It's probably wise to take survivorship bias into account here. Also, I think the focus is on the wrong data point. Wouldn't it be better to look at hospitals with the best/fastest recovery rate? Or look at hospitals with the highest fatality rates to understand what specifically is causing that?

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Post by Pmop » Thu, Mar 19, 2020, 4:56 AM UTC

mysterypie wrote: post #2

I would welcome a handbook like this for individual or family use at home if hospitals become overwelmed and can no longer accommodate even seriously ill patients. The featured handbook looks very useful, but it's written for medical professionals in a hospital setting. I'm thinking about a handbook with instructions on how to do life critical procedures as best as possible with the resources one might have at home .…

I still do think hospitals can benefit from this material. The issue I'm having right now is relaying this information to the right people. Also, living in a non-English speaking country, I have no idea if health professionals are having problems with the language barrier regarding getting themselves informed with the latest insights about covid-19. Plus, a great deal of people are playing it off.

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Post by Gibbon1 » Thu, Mar 19, 2020, 5:02 AM UTC

vikramkr wrote: post #20

pdq wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Props to Jack. This, along with his donation of a million masks and half million testing kits, shows selfless entrepreneurship.

Not sure why you're getting downvoted. Philanthropy is philanthropy, and i don't see anything wrong with appreciating when someone does something good.

I think we all know why he's getting downvoted but it's against the rules to talk about it.

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Post by hackermailman » Thu, Mar 19, 2020, 5:07 AM UTC

dirtyid wrote: post #13

est wrote: post #10

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There's a Chinese tutorial of how to make ~n90 grade masks with HEPA and SMS non-woven fabric. https://www.zhihu.com/question/367499169/answer/996640281

Somewhat related, Chinese CDC posted their official guidance on mask usage. Google translate: I. The general public (1) Home and outdoor, no people gathered, well ventilated. It is not recommended to wear a mask. (2) Being in a crowded place, such as office, shopping, restaurant, conference room, workshop, etc .; or taking a box elevator or public transportation. In low- and medium-risk areas, it is recommended that…

This blog has interesting information, like how to properly remove a mask to avoid infecting yourself @ 14:59, and to not contaminate your house with outdoor clothing by leaving it outside: https://youtu.be/yyucJekT87E (turn on subtitles)