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Has the bidet's time in North America finally arrived?

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Re: Has the bidet's time in North America finally arrived?

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You can also just sit on the ledge of the tub. Actually easier in a lot of ways. Also: foaming hand soap is a game changer of this technique.

You use your bare hand?

Absolutely.

We did cloth diapering with our three kids.

Poop is really not that scary after you get over the initial ick factor.

Re: Has the bidet's time in North America finally arrived?

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Every time I hear someone say that they stopped using toilet paper after switching to a bidet, I have some serious questions. Because I've used bidets and washlets of all kinds, and I've never met one that actually cleaned fully without also rubbing/wiping. So, ok, using wet paper can get you much cleaner and is gentler than dry paper, but blasting wet feces droplets all over the place with a jet spray alone isn't so…

blasting wet feces droplets all over the place This is the only thing I don't get about bidets. Unless I'm missing something it's like unavoidable to get droplets on your hand/spreayer for the manual types? I personally wouldn't really care, but I just wonder why not more people make a fuzz about this. Again, maybe I'm missing something.

> Unless I'm missing something it's like unavoidable to get droplets on your hand/spreayer for the manual types?

Yes, you use your hand along with the water to clean! It sounds disgusting but actually feels super clean and hygienic once you are used to it.

Your hand will not smell afterwards and it is heavenly for the butt, feels so nice and clean. Also IME feces will lose some of their disgustingness, just because everything around it is so much cleaner now. I lived "western style" until 30 y/o and with a "bum gun" since two years, one of the best life improvements for me.

Re: Has the bidet's time in North America finally arrived?

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Every time I hear someone say that they stopped using toilet paper after switching to a bidet, I have some serious questions. Because I've used bidets and washlets of all kinds, and I've never met one that actually cleaned fully without also rubbing/wiping. So, ok, using wet paper can get you much cleaner and is gentler than dry paper, but blasting wet feces droplets all over the place with a jet spray alone isn't so…

We bought and installed a full bidet toilet (Toto Neorest 700H) in September last year. No regrets.

It does not eliminate toilet paper for us. But most of it goes towards drying off quickly. If you're patient you can use the built-in blow-dryer, but it's much slower than patting down.

Really eliminates 95-99% of wiping, in my experience. The temperature-controlled seat and water are very nice in winter (Seattle, where another commenter noted that tap water is somewhere in the 40°s Fahrenheit).

Re: Has the bidet's time in North America finally arrived?

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Has anyone with a hairy butt crack had success with bidets? My limited experience with them in Japan involved an incident that went like this: - Did a not-so-solid poop and had poo stuck in my ass hair - Used warm bidet water jet on max pressure for a good minute or two to clean - Wiped with toilet paper to dry my ass only to discover that it was still far from clean - Toilet paper disintegrated while wiping so I now…

Absolutely. If you're really hairy down there and not using a bidet then assuming you're clean after is very wishful thinking. Just make sure you're not using 1ply garbage tp, and understand that you may need a second wipe or second pass.

Re: Has the bidet's time in North America finally arrived?

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I don't get it. At home I just step into the tub and wash my butthole with soap and water. Dry with a towel no different than having taken a shower, then get on with my life all nice and fresh down there. No need for TP or more consumer garbage to maintain and wear out that doesn't even clean as effectively as proper bathing w/soap and hands.

are you naked every time you shit?

Umm...

1. How often do you shit? If I'm shitting more than once in a day, I'm sick, so, exceptional.

2. I just remove my pants and underwear. There's a hand-held sprayer in the tub. My shoes are already removed if I'm indoors, and I don't usually wear socks indoors. It's a trivial matter to step out of my lower half and into the tub, spray my bottom without getting my shirt wet.

3. When I'm at home I'm generally just wearing boxer shorts anyways, pants are for work.

I'm surprised this needs further clarification.

Re: Has the bidet's time in North America finally arrived?

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You can also just sit on the ledge of the tub. Actually easier in a lot of ways. Also: foaming hand soap is a game changer of this technique.

You use your bare hand?

> You use your bare hand?

What do you bathe using?

It doesn't matter when you have running water and soap on the ready. Obviously after your ass is clean you ensure your hands are washed too before shutting off the water.

The water spray knocks off the bulk before hands get involved anyways.

Re: Has the bidet's time in North America finally arrived?

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are you naked every time you shit?

Umm... 1. How often do you shit? If I'm shitting more than once in a day, I'm sick, so, exceptional. 2. I just remove my pants and underwear. There's a hand-held sprayer in the tub. My shoes are already removed if I'm indoors, and I don't usually wear socks indoors. It's a trivial matter to step out of my lower half and into the tub, spray my bottom without getting my shirt wet. 3. When I'm at home I'm generally just…

When I read 1&2 I figure, ok, this commenter leads a peculiar life but it works for them.

#3 however had me laughing, and "at home = pants off" is a strange assumption to me. Do you have guests often? Need to answer the door? Visible to your neighbors from any of your windows?

Re: Has the bidet's time in North America finally arrived?

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Umm... 1. How often do you shit? If I'm shitting more than once in a day, I'm sick, so, exceptional. 2. I just remove my pants and underwear. There's a hand-held sprayer in the tub. My shoes are already removed if I'm indoors, and I don't usually wear socks indoors. It's a trivial matter to step out of my lower half and into the tub, spray my bottom without getting my shirt wet. 3. When I'm at home I'm generally just…

When I read 1&2 I figure, ok, this commenter leads a peculiar life but it works for them. #3 however had me laughing, and "at home = pants off" is a strange assumption to me. Do you have guests often? Need to answer the door? Visible to your neighbors from any of your windows?

> When I read 1&2 I figure, ok, this commenter leads a peculiar life but it works for them.

What's peculiar about 1&2? No shoes is normal for clean homes, and I'm in a warm climate so socks aren't really needed. It's not unusual for a tub+shower to have a handheld sprayer for spot rinsing, it's very useful for washing the facilities too.

> Do you have guests often? Need to answer the door? Visible to your neighbors from any of your windows?

I still wear a t-shirt most of the time unless it's hot. When guests are around I just throw on swim trunks over the boxers out of respect, that doesn't complicate dropping trou in any way; they come down and go back on together as a unit. Same for answering the door, throw on swim trunks beforehand...

I'm on acres of land, the nearest neighbors neither matter nor care about what's going on in my home.

Re: Has the bidet's time in North America finally arrived?

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Has anyone with a hairy butt crack had success with bidets? My limited experience with them in Japan involved an incident that went like this: - Did a not-so-solid poop and had poo stuck in my ass hair - Used warm bidet water jet on max pressure for a good minute or two to clean - Wiped with toilet paper to dry my ass only to discover that it was still far from clean - Toilet paper disintegrated while wiping so I now…

Hairy butt guy here, it works wonderfully ;)

Re: Has the bidet's time in North America finally arrived?

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> The feeling of wetness is something that you get used to once you realize that your butt clean. I'm not talking about wetness. I'm talking about feces. As in sitting there getting blasted with a sprayer for well over a minute trying to hit all the angles and then seeing brown on the paper being used to dry up. Just spraying water does not work on its own. If you wipe normally first, then a bidet afterward will prob…

Even just a few seconds running normal pressure bidet is extremely effective. Let it run for 10 seconds, use hot water, use a rotating sprayer (or just wiggle around a bit) and there is absolutely nothing left. Don't forget your skin doesn't want poo on it and gravity is also actively working against anything sticking.

> Let it run for 10 seconds, use hot water, use a rotating sprayer (or just wiggle around a bit) and there is absolutely nothing left.

Personal experience does not agree with you. But I'm glad that it works well for someone.

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