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Re: New iPad Pro with LiDAR Scanner and trackpad support

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Apple, please make the ipadOS eco system developer friendly. I'd buy it instantly. If Visual Studio Code was available there, that'd be amazing. There is some projects[1] going on but using some non-viable workaround [1] https://github.com/microsoft/vscode/issues/70764

Animation CPU is developer friendly and should be available soon

https://animationcpu.herokuapp.com

Re: New iPad Pro with LiDAR Scanner and trackpad support

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The surface pro can do everything, but for most things the tablet mode experience is somewhere between dismal and unusable. The ipad pro can't do a handful of tasks, but for everything else the experience is excellent in both tablet and laptop mode. Those things the ipad can't do are largely niche (now that working with files is well supported), and are solvable limitations. The software problem on the surface pro is…

> Those things the ipad can't do are largely niche Software development doesn't feel niche to me. It feels like it should be possible to publish a usable, high quality iPad app using nothing but an iPad.

When you're in the niche, it's hard to see out. I'm old enough to remember encountering the first computer magazine that didn't feature program listings (SoftTalk) and thinking who would want this thing? Programming is very much a niche activity (although I imagine that it's more a question of when rather than if that we'll see some sort of XCode for iOS).

Re: New iPad Pro with LiDAR Scanner and trackpad support

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When I go to a place where people are working--an office, a university library, a coffee shop--I see a sea of laptops and no iPads. Even in places such as Stanford libraries, where it is a sea of MacBooks, the people who provably buy lots of expensive Apple products don't buy iPads for work. And iPads have been outselling Macs on a unit basis for a decade, so even people who buy iPads don't seem to find them suitable…

The iPad is useful for certain things. If you're trying to share a document with another person and discuss it, it works much better on an iPad. Both people can hold it, scroll it, etc and it feels much less awkward than discussing things on a laptop. It's also a bit better than a laptop for digging in and highlighting reading material. I would not use it as my main PC, though, that's for sure. The apps just aren't t…

I really don't think it's that "apps aren't there yet". The platform is more than a decade old and has an order of magnitude more apps and app development than the Mac ever had. I really think that the reason people who own Macs and iPads keep ignoring their iPads when planning to do real work is not that there hasn't been enough effort yet put into creating apps for iOS. It's that the form factor and OS were designed together for one-finger selection from a portable menu of amusements, not for plugging in a standard thumb drive and flexibly deploying a combination of ordinary work tools on a project folder full of productive work.

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This seems like a dubious explanation; you can get quite high-quality external webcams that use USB 2.0. I'd say a more likely (and harder to fix) explanation is that the phone ones can be deeper; laptop ones have to be very slim to fit.

Exactly. You want thinner bezel, slimmer Screen, and the trade off is simply the camera. Unfortunately there doesn't seems to be enough interest in it for Apple to innovate.

They could put a notch into the Macbook screen. /s

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> Those things the ipad can't do are largely niche Software development doesn't feel niche to me. It feels like it should be possible to publish a usable, high quality iPad app using nothing but an iPad.

When you're in the niche, it's hard to see out. I'm old enough to remember encountering the first computer magazine that didn't feature program listings ( SoftTalk ) and thinking who would want this thing? Programming is very much a niche activity (although I imagine that it's more a question of when rather than if that we'll see some sort of XCode for iOS).

My take on this is that programming may be niche now, but it shouldn't be. Simple scripting is useful and lets you easily perform tasks that would otherwise be repetitive.

I'm not saying everyone should be able to build a large application, but you shouldn't be stopped from building things on it, otherwise how will you even get started?

Computers that stop you from inspecting them and learning how they work build a moat between the users and developers of the system. That's the opposite of what I think we should be encouraging.

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Yah.. USB-C, so I carry a dongle with the iPad Pro that I don't have to carry with my Surface Pro. I wouldn't have to buy the dongle cause I already have a great collection of them because I have a USB-C-only MacBook Pro. But I still have bought 0 actual devices that have USB-C. And it's not just external storage devices. It was always such a mess. E.x. with the Camera connection kit on the iPad Pro: - My Canon 5D wo…

The camera connection kit is a quirky weird stepchild for Apple. It works well with about anything on the iPhone - although some devices require a powered lightning cable. On iPad, the same devices will all work, but it's a lot fussier about what powered lightning cable you use. For example - I have a USB-C to lightning cable and a USB-PD charger. If I use those with the camera connection kit, my iPhone will access a…

Anything where they try to stuff a large amount of data over the lightning connector has been finicky, there are a lot of complaints about the HDMI adapters too.

Wish they’d just change everything to USB-C, but with them releasing new accessories regularly that charge with lightning, it doesn’t feel likely. Most recently PowerBeats 4 a couple of days ago.

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I had the first five generations of Surface Pros. I agree that they can be your main computer. They have compromises but overall they work fine. For example, they don't have the computational power as the top end MacBook Pros but they are extremely portable and have a touch screen. I eventually went back to MacOS for work. My Macbook Pro is a great companion to my iPad Pro. I use both 50/50 depending on the scenario.…

Can you run xcode on iPad?

Am waiting on that too!

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When you're in the niche, it's hard to see out. I'm old enough to remember encountering the first computer magazine that didn't feature program listings ( SoftTalk ) and thinking who would want this thing? Programming is very much a niche activity (although I imagine that it's more a question of when rather than if that we'll see some sort of XCode for iOS).

My take on this is that programming may be niche now, but it shouldn't be. Simple scripting is useful and lets you easily perform tasks that would otherwise be repetitive. I'm not saying everyone should be able to build a large application, but you shouldn't be stopped from building things on it, otherwise how will you even get started? Computers that stop you from inspecting them and learning how they work build a m…

Shortcuts.app allows simple scripting on iOS and is free from Apple. Pythonista is also on iOS.

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The iPad is useful for certain things. If you're trying to share a document with another person and discuss it, it works much better on an iPad. Both people can hold it, scroll it, etc and it feels much less awkward than discussing things on a laptop. It's also a bit better than a laptop for digging in and highlighting reading material. I would not use it as my main PC, though, that's for sure. The apps just aren't t…

I really don't think it's that "apps aren't there yet". The platform is more than a decade old and has an order of magnitude more apps and app development than the Mac ever had. I really think that the reason people who own Macs and iPads keep ignoring their iPads when planning to do real work is not that there hasn't been enough effort yet put into creating apps for iOS. It's that the form factor and OS were designe…

There is also a lack of desktop OS features. I tried using my image management software, Mylio, and I had to keep the iPad pro on and unlocked for images to sync to the cloud, and it did it a lot slower than my 6 year old macbook pro. Same with SD card imports and other general multitasking tasks.

Web browsing on the ipad pro with a keyboard cover although is pretty good!

Re: New iPad Pro with LiDAR Scanner and trackpad support

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> iPad Pro is faster and more powerful than most Windows PC laptops This is such a frustrating comparison that Apple continues to make. They factor in that most Windows PC laptops are very low-spec and low-price. If you compared performance with similarly priced machines it would likely be a different story. But come on, Apple. It's not 2001 anymore. You don't need to keep up with the 'us vs them' mentality.

The late 2019 iPad Pro is faster and more powerful than the late 2019 Macbook Air. I bought both and tested. It made me wish for an iPad Pro hardware based Macbook Air but ultimately I sold the iPad Pro 4 weeks later since I never used it. My workflow is decidedly not tablet oriented.

Late 2018* iPad Pro. Apple didn’t release an iPad Pro in 2019.
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