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Virus spread shouldn’t be a huge issue if you only put confirmed cases on the ship.
Who treats them on the ship? It certainly wouldn't be healthy medical professionals.
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#42https://cornellsun.com/2020/03/16/cuomo-proposes-converting-...
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Totally agree but not to be pedant, but state governments should have some sort of emergency provisions as well. Some people forget we're the United States for a reason. Each state is actually it's own "functional" government. Maybe we should start training state troopers as well for some of these possibilities.
I look at it the other way. Why does it all have to be done at a state level? Because that's how things have always been? Meh. There are very clear efficiencies to be gained by coordinating response to events like this at a national level, and it's not like individual states are about to declare independence. Over time the structure of the US could end up being more of a weakness than a strength. It's not as if the v…
Ignoring local expertise to blindly chase efficiency of large-scale enterprise is perilous.
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#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
Totally agree but not to be pedant, but state governments should have some sort of emergency provisions as well. Some people forget we're the United States for a reason. Each state is actually it's own "functional" government. Maybe we should start training state troopers as well for some of these possibilities.
I look at it the other way. Why does it all have to be done at a state level? Because that's how things have always been? Meh. There are very clear efficiencies to be gained by coordinating response to events like this at a national level, and it's not like individual states are about to declare independence. Over time the structure of the US could end up being more of a weakness than a strength. It's not as if the v…
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#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
I look at it the other way. Why does it all have to be done at a state level? Because that's how things have always been? Meh. There are very clear efficiencies to be gained by coordinating response to events like this at a national level, and it's not like individual states are about to declare independence. Over time the structure of the US could end up being more of a weakness than a strength. It's not as if the v…
Because the nature of response varies so much in between different locations and local expertise is often best poised to deal with local problems. Federal resources are better for things like logistics (ship 500,000 masks to where they're needed), but New York probably knows how to get aid to New York best. Ignoring local expertise to blindly chase efficiency of large-scale enterprise is perilous.
Is that really true here? I can certainly see an urban vs rural divide, but beyond that I can’t see what makes individual states all that different.
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#46Madrid, Spain just announced 40 hospitals will be turned to hospital rooms. 9,000 beds.
> hospitals will be turned to hospital rooms There is a logical mistake in this sentence.
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#48Cruise ships aren't bad options either. I hear they're a bit underutilized
I like the spirit of the idea (keeping them away from others), but other than that, it's not a wise idea: >Keeping all the passengers on board instead of letting them disembark on land is a strategy that can backfire, however, according to experts, because the ventilation systems and close quarters of cruise ships make them ideal places for illness to jump from one person to the next. >“They’re not designed as quaran…
Are there other options to temporarily retrofit the ventilation system? How much worse is a cruise ship ventilation system from an old hotel's HVAC? Which is harder to retrofit?
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#49May I suggest starting with Trump Tower?
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#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
Totally agree but not to be pedant, but state governments should have some sort of emergency provisions as well. Some people forget we're the United States for a reason. Each state is actually it's own "functional" government. Maybe we should start training state troopers as well for some of these possibilities.
I look at it the other way. Why does it all have to be done at a state level? Because that's how things have always been? Meh. There are very clear efficiencies to be gained by coordinating response to events like this at a national level, and it's not like individual states are about to declare independence. Over time the structure of the US could end up being more of a weakness than a strength. It's not as if the v…
And federal solutions tend to gravitate to one size fits all. Or you must have 50 teams on federal payroll to tailor solution for each state - in which case they will probably duplicate already existing organizations.
There is a role for the federal government - to make sure that scarce resources are procured and distributed, to fund R&D, to disseminate knowledge and know how.