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New York City Weighs Turning Hotels into Hospitals

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Re: New York City Weighs Turning Hotels into Hospitals

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Madrid, Spain just announced 40 hospitals will be turned to hospital rooms. 9,000 beds.

> hospitals will be turned to hospital rooms There is a logical mistake in this sentence.

They could tear down all internal walls to make each hospital into one large room. That would be very counterproductive, but they could.

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Paywalled but judging by the headline, it's honestly an interesting and great idea. Pay the hotels so they can survive, create a conversion plan with certain standards (Changing all filters to MERV-13 or something), and start auditing the process.

yeah - except surplus profits for decades built more destination vacation sites, luxury hotels and shopping malls, and not rank-and-file housing, due to profits.. you are enthusiastically adding to the cash flow of those decisions... when does this end?

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That sounds like a good idea. I hope one thing comes out of this pandemic: that our governments, local and federal, stockpile portable tent hospitals and equipment that can be put in place quickly for future problems. I doubt this will happen in the USA, but that is what I hope happens. I think health infrastructure is part of national security and should receive appropriate resources.

Totally agree but not to be pedant, but state governments should have some sort of emergency provisions as well. Some people forget we're the United States for a reason. Each state is actually it's own "functional" government. Maybe we should start training state troopers as well for some of these possibilities.

I look at it the other way. Why does it all have to be done at a state level? Because that's how things have always been? Meh. There are very clear efficiencies to be gained by coordinating response to events like this at a national level, and it's not like individual states are about to declare independence. Over time the structure of the US could end up being more of a weakness than a strength. It's not as if the virus respects state borders.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I like the spirit of the idea (keeping them away from others), but other than that, it's not a wise idea: >Keeping all the passengers on board instead of letting them disembark on land is a strategy that can backfire, however, according to experts, because the ventilation systems and close quarters of cruise ships make them ideal places for illness to jump from one person to the next. >“They’re not designed as quaran…

Virus spread shouldn’t be a huge issue if you only put confirmed cases on the ship.

Who treats them on the ship? It certainly wouldn't be healthy medical professionals.

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Hospitals rely on 100% outside. Meaning they don't recycle existing air already circulated. Pretty sure hotels don't have that kind of HVAC.

I don't think there is any evidence that recyling air has any use here given that these wards would be filled with already sick patients and healthcare professionals.

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Well, they have a lot of the infrastucture. The beds are different.

Right now there are 53k hospital beds in the state of New York, and 3k of them are ICU beds. The prediction [1] is that in 45 days we'll need 55k-110k beds for the severe cases of Covid19, from which up to 37k ICU beds. Now, maybe you can't make ICU beds in hotels, but maybe you can make regular hospital beds. They'll be useful too.

[1] https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/18/cuomo-says-trump-is-dispatch...

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Cruise ships aren't bad options either. I hear they're a bit underutilized

I like the spirit of the idea (keeping them away from others), but other than that, it's not a wise idea: >Keeping all the passengers on board instead of letting them disembark on land is a strategy that can backfire, however, according to experts, because the ventilation systems and close quarters of cruise ships make them ideal places for illness to jump from one person to the next. >“They’re not designed as quaran…

There's no concern for the spread of infection if you designate a facility (no matter if it's a sports hall or a cruise ship) for holding and treating only known patients of a single disease.

Yes, they're not suitable for quarantine of possibly infected people - but it seems that we're past that stage, with massive community spread, we're not going to quarantine anyone, we're just going to ask possibly infected people to please try and stay at home if it's not too inconvenient; I mean, most countries don't even bother testing the possibly infected contacts anymore.

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post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the parent meant using them as mobile quarantine/treatment centers for confirmed cases.

The point about the recirculating air means that whoever is caring for the sick is also going to get sick.

So turn off the air and open the balcony doors.
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