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New iPad Pro with LiDAR Scanner and trackpad support

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Re: New iPad Pro with LiDAR Scanner and trackpad support

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Post by 0xff00ffee »

jyrkesh wrote: post #388
0xff00ffee wrote: post #318

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> I didn't really see he benefit over dealing with Windows What possible nightmare bugs could macOS have that would lead you to this claim? I'm really curious. They'd have to be big ones because I've been developing on Lin/Win/Mac for 6 years and nothing comes close to the pain of developing on Windows.

Developing on Windows or developing for Windows? My experience is that the former has significantly improved over the last couple years.

How does one develop for windows without develop on windows? cross compilation? [Even electronjs cannot cross compile (correctly).]

Re: New iPad Pro with LiDAR Scanner and trackpad support

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Post by vlunkr »

ben7799 wrote: post #328

I already had an iPad Pro + smart keyboard + pencil once... and got rid of it and switched to a Surface Pro. We still have an old 10" iPad 2 + an older iPad Mini in the house and they get use for typical iPad consumer stuff. When I add up this new iPad in the minimum 128GB/Wifi/11" config this one is about $400 more than I paid for the Surface Pro + KB cover + MS Pen. (Which is i5/8GB/128GB/Wifi-only) The Surface has…

This is why I don't understand how there's even a market for the iPad Pro (outside the Apple superfans). I like iOS, but it seems like if you want to any real work it's an uphill battle, and for the money there are plenty of alternatives.

Re: New iPad Pro with LiDAR Scanner and trackpad support

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Post by benayatei »

ben7799 wrote: post #328

I already had an iPad Pro + smart keyboard + pencil once... and got rid of it and switched to a Surface Pro. We still have an old 10" iPad 2 + an older iPad Mini in the house and they get use for typical iPad consumer stuff. When I add up this new iPad in the minimum 128GB/Wifi/11" config this one is about $400 more than I paid for the Surface Pro + KB cover + MS Pen. (Which is i5/8GB/128GB/Wifi-only) The Surface has…

I love these two devices but really I don't know which one use Suitable for my job. Are you sure really Surface Pro is better?

Re: New iPad Pro with LiDAR Scanner and trackpad support

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Post by microtherion »

post_break wrote: post #236
libria wrote: post #175

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- How about self-body scanning for dating apps? You can add it on your profile as a "LiDAR 3d-model" bonus so interested parties know they're not getting catfished. Yeah, you can always scan your hot friend, but it just requires another level of deception. - How about a "night-vision" app? Without needing a flashlight, you can stumble around a dark room (maybe outdoors at night?) without running into walls.

Oh god, lidar dick pics... please no.

At least you can rest assured that Elon Musk will never send one of these…

Re: New iPad Pro with LiDAR Scanner and trackpad support

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Post by philsnow »

apozem wrote: post #418
MuffinFlavored wrote: post #390

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> Until you can run MacOS on it Do we think we'll see full blown MacOS/equivalent on iPads in the next 2-3 years?

They don't want the legacy UI and code of macOS, they want iPadOS to be good enough that you don't need a Mac. Hence why the last couple years of iPadOS have been covering more and more use cases. As a frontend web developer, I would love for them to cover my use case. A native terminal and desktop browser tools in iPadOS would get me to ditch my MacBook Pro in a heartbeat.

Feels a lot like ChromeOS: declare bankruptcy on a lot of the userspace cruft that's accumulated over the decades

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frenchie4111 wrote: post #291
threatofrain wrote: post #253

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Additionally, what is Apple’s vision for MacOS going forward? Presumably MacOS isn’t coming to the iPad, so is iPadOS coming to the Mac? I’m sad that MacOS may soon be meeting it’s end, and how in some weird ways, Microsoft is starting to be more Linuxy than Apple.

Is there a reason it has to be one or the other? MacOS is the best operating system for power users or content creators. iPadOS is the best operating system for personal computer users. That seems like the vision to me.

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Post by pwthornton »

millzlane wrote: post #384
ben7799 wrote: post #328

I already had an iPad Pro + smart keyboard + pencil once... and got rid of it and switched to a Surface Pro. We still have an old 10" iPad 2 + an older iPad Mini in the house and they get use for typical iPad consumer stuff. When I add up this new iPad in the minimum 128GB/Wifi/11" config this one is about $400 more than I paid for the Surface Pro + KB cover + MS Pen. (Which is i5/8GB/128GB/Wifi-only) The Surface has…

Until you can run MacOS on it, it will always pale in comparison to a Surface pro. You can do some things well on a iPad pro. But you can do anything on a Surface pro except run MacOS. Well I looked and it looks like some have installed MacOS or used vmware images.

This would ruin the iPad. MacOS is a great windowing OS. It’s not made for touchscreens.

MS has been doing this weird dance where they tried to smoosh two OSes together and created one bad OS. The absolute worst was when Windows 8 first came out, and I keep accidentally getting into tablet mode on my non-touch screen laptop.

Apple is taking the correct course which is to build a new OS from the ground up and adding power. MS made gigantic missteps by trying to force a windowing OS to support touch.

Both are somewhat meeting in the middle, and now Surfaces have gotten pretty decent, but they started out bad.

The other thing to remember is that people buy tablets for touch, and Surface Pros are pretty decent laptop replacements but still so-so as an actual tablet.

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Post by 0xff00ffee »

dade_ wrote: post #377
0xff00ffee wrote: post #318

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> I didn't really see he benefit over dealing with Windows What possible nightmare bugs could macOS have that would lead you to this claim? I'm really curious. They'd have to be big ones because I've been developing on Lin/Win/Mac for 6 years and nothing comes close to the pain of developing on Windows.

The cat versions since Tiger were pretty much flawless upgrades and never had any issues. Then the mountains came, and upgrades never went as smoothly and problems would crop up. Display driver issues, Wifi would just disconnect, strange performance issues (I think caused by CPU throttling to keep the fan quiet), it was a while back. Then the display developed a bright yellow vertical line DURING the upgrade to Sierr…

Oh, ok, these are anecdotal bugs and not something systemic and real, like, say the redesign of the file system or memory managers or the driver system.

I've had 3 macs over a decade and they've all been flawless. My 2013 MBP is still my trusty workhorse, my Mac Mini handles the living room.

Only issue ever was Catalina when my chinese 32-bit Alfa drivers stopped working, but I had two OSes worth of warnings. And my new iPhone 7 sometimes cannot make calls because the phone app crashes and I have to reboot (bahahahah wtf apple... YOU HAD ONE JOB!!!). SO there's that.

I've got dozens of anecdotal issues with windows though: I still have to sit and wait 60 seconds to see what is in my recycle bin (or any folder with large # files) for Explorer while it does a bunch of bloatware internet checks behind the scenes to tell me things I don't need to know. Or my system randomly grinding to a halt due to upgrades. Or the spontaneous 100% network usage associated with services that require me to get a coffee while they finish (because rebooting will kill an hour). Or the Device Manager that hasn't changed since Win2000. Oh, and I love the advertisements for games in my start menu. Or being able to actually stop windows updates (twist: even dinking with the registry still is undone).

Battle of opinions here, obviously: but the Candy Crush showing up my start menu really sealed the coffin on Windows being a serious platform.

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Post by nextos »

vlunkr wrote: post #422
ben7799 wrote: post #328

I already had an iPad Pro + smart keyboard + pencil once... and got rid of it and switched to a Surface Pro. We still have an old 10" iPad 2 + an older iPad Mini in the house and they get use for typical iPad consumer stuff. When I add up this new iPad in the minimum 128GB/Wifi/11" config this one is about $400 more than I paid for the Surface Pro + KB cover + MS Pen. (Which is i5/8GB/128GB/Wifi-only) The Surface has…

This is why I don't understand how there's even a market for the iPad Pro (outside the Apple superfans). I like iOS, but it seems like if you want to any real work it's an uphill battle, and for the money there are plenty of alternatives.

Me neither. The hardware they offer is absolutely fantastic. And some of the software (from e.g. Panic or OmniGroup).

But even running a decent terminal requires purchasing an app and setting up mosh on the other side. There's no Esc in their keyboards. There are too many roadblocks and glitches.

I wish I could buy an iPad and simply open a terminal and ssh to my machine of choice.

Right now, it's much easier to buy a Surface Go / Pro. And these run Linux natively really well.

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