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New iPad Pro with LiDAR Scanner and trackpad support

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Re: New iPad Pro with LiDAR Scanner and trackpad support

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Post by jyrkesh »

lern_too_spel wrote: post #279
Someone1234 wrote: post #232

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Debugging allows arbitrary code execution. Essentially you allow developers to debug running applications on their iPad, you allow them to run any code they want on it (maybe with extra steps, but that is the unavoidable inevitable result). I'm not against it, but I am saying that's quite different from the iPad's current security model. You're giving developers root, maybe with extra steps, but root none the less.

If arbitrary code execution means trivial privilege escalation, your OS is broken.

Arbitrary code execution requires some kind of privilege escalation. If it's impossible, I don't have much interest in your OS.

Re: New iPad Pro with LiDAR Scanner and trackpad support

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ben7799 wrote: post #379
wlesieutre wrote: post #330

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It does support files on external storage devices now with the USB-C port. It also supports SMB shares, which is great since I keep most of my stuff on a NAS and can access it over my VPN. Developer tools are an obvious weak point, but FWIW I sold my Surface to buy an iPad Pro a few years ago and I'm happier with this. Considering an upgrade from 2016 model (9.7" with lightning) to the new ones. It wouldn't work as m…

Yah.. USB-C, so I carry a dongle with the iPad Pro that I don't have to carry with my Surface Pro. I wouldn't have to buy the dongle cause I already have a great collection of them because I have a USB-C-only MacBook Pro. But I still have bought 0 actual devices that have USB-C. And it's not just external storage devices. It was always such a mess. E.x. with the Camera connection kit on the iPad Pro: - My Canon 5D wo…

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Re: New iPad Pro with LiDAR Scanner and trackpad support

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Post by dade_ »

AgloeDreams wrote: post #365
dade_ wrote: post #281

I've already ordered one. I sold off the last of my Apple products a few years ago. Since then, the MacBook Pro has improved, but MacOS was getting so buggy that I didn't really see he benefit over dealing with Windows (also, I love WSL). iPhones with lightning connectors and no headphone jack offend me. So no thanks. Besides, have you tried the Xperia 5? But man I miss my iPad. My very expensive and high performance…

I get the feeling that ChromeOS would break your heart like it does mine. It's like most of the iPad Experience, plus the android tablet app heartbreak plus WSL wrapped into what I personally think in V82 is the best terminal app I have ever seen. It's all kinds of 'THIS IS AMAZING' while also being 'THIS IS HORRIBLE'

I had high expectations that Google would figure out Chrome on tablets with Android. But they couldn't even make a good Chrome touch experience. The lag was pretty bad and then the whole effort was killed off.

Tough being a product at Google. They remind me of the turtles hatching on the beach and running for the ocean before being killed by the birds.

Re: New iPad Pro with LiDAR Scanner and trackpad support

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Post by millzlane »

ben7799 wrote: post #328

I already had an iPad Pro + smart keyboard + pencil once... and got rid of it and switched to a Surface Pro. We still have an old 10" iPad 2 + an older iPad Mini in the house and they get use for typical iPad consumer stuff. When I add up this new iPad in the minimum 128GB/Wifi/11" config this one is about $400 more than I paid for the Surface Pro + KB cover + MS Pen. (Which is i5/8GB/128GB/Wifi-only) The Surface has…

Until you can run MacOS on it, it will always pale in comparison to a Surface pro.

You can do some things well on a iPad pro. But you can do anything on a Surface pro except run MacOS. Well I looked and it looks like some have installed MacOS or used vmware images.

Re: New iPad Pro with LiDAR Scanner and trackpad support

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Post by tluyben2 »

GeorgeTirebiter wrote: post #272

There is exactly one attribute which will convince me the iPad Pro is a 'real' computer: when I can develop apps for the iPad on the iPad. Until then... nice, but ...

Same here. I like my (cheap) iPad and I use it a lot, but before I can develop software on it, it's definitely not a real computer. It's something which is nice to read, watch movies on etc.

I must say; if I could program on it, I probably would not have a laptop anymore. 2 years ago my laptop was being repaired and I had to spend 2 months (don't ask) with my iPad Pro; I worked with Termius + Remotix for developing apps + sites + api's and it works fine as long as the connection is good. I was in HK and the 4g internet is great all over the place, even on the ferry. It's not ideal but it's really quite good.

Re: New iPad Pro with LiDAR Scanner and trackpad support

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Post by rhodysurf »

bergie wrote: post #368
rhodysurf wrote: post #204

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I use a digital ocean droplet over mosh with tmux and vim for some things and that works pretty well but its annoying not having vscode or sublime to use for sure

You could probably get vscode by running code-server on the VPS

Yeah im gunna try that soon when I have a little time

Re: New iPad Pro with LiDAR Scanner and trackpad support

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Post by rhodysurf »

72deluxe wrote: post #320
rhodysurf wrote: post #295

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Its a good editor but theres no auto completion, debugging, ability to compile, etc

I see what you mean. I suppose if the iPad can't download other binaries to load in the background (like the C# or C++ dependencies), VSCode is never going to come to it. It's still just a consumption / Etch-A-Sketch device despite all the marketing about how wonderful it is for creation. It's good for making basic music/practicing guitar for me, but other than that my iPad is just for reading/browsing.

Yup and it sucks becauee its completely arbitrary and apples decision that it isnt unleashed. If I could I would use my iPad like 9/10 times vs my Macbook

Re: New iPad Pro with LiDAR Scanner and trackpad support

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Post by jyrkesh »

0xff00ffee wrote: post #318
dade_ wrote: post #281

I've already ordered one. I sold off the last of my Apple products a few years ago. Since then, the MacBook Pro has improved, but MacOS was getting so buggy that I didn't really see he benefit over dealing with Windows (also, I love WSL). iPhones with lightning connectors and no headphone jack offend me. So no thanks. Besides, have you tried the Xperia 5? But man I miss my iPad. My very expensive and high performance…

> I didn't really see he benefit over dealing with Windows What possible nightmare bugs could macOS have that would lead you to this claim? I'm really curious. They'd have to be big ones because I've been developing on Lin/Win/Mac for 6 years and nothing comes close to the pain of developing on Windows.

Developing on Windows or developing for Windows? My experience is that the former has significantly improved over the last couple years.

Re: New iPad Pro with LiDAR Scanner and trackpad support

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Post by MuffinFlavored »

millzlane wrote: post #384
ben7799 wrote: post #328

I already had an iPad Pro + smart keyboard + pencil once... and got rid of it and switched to a Surface Pro. We still have an old 10" iPad 2 + an older iPad Mini in the house and they get use for typical iPad consumer stuff. When I add up this new iPad in the minimum 128GB/Wifi/11" config this one is about $400 more than I paid for the Surface Pro + KB cover + MS Pen. (Which is i5/8GB/128GB/Wifi-only) The Surface has…

Until you can run MacOS on it, it will always pale in comparison to a Surface pro. You can do some things well on a iPad pro. But you can do anything on a Surface pro except run MacOS. Well I looked and it looks like some have installed MacOS or used vmware images.

> Until you can run MacOS on it

Do we think we'll see full blown MacOS/equivalent on iPads in the next 2-3 years?

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