NPM Is Joining GitHub

Post by Conan_Kudo » Tue, Mar 17, 2020, 11:25 AM UTC

dcposch wrote: post #414

K0nserv wrote: post #14

This seems like a good outcome overall. NPM being such an important pillar in the software supply chain while having an unviable business model and largely being funded by VC money was never a good position to be in. There are problems with more of the software ecosystem consolidating with a single entity but it still feels like an improvement.

I'd really love to teleport some forum nerd from just six years ago to the present. - Microsoft is a leading sponsor of open source? - In fact, .NET is open source now and runs on Linux? - Microsoft bought Github, then NPM... and the community is celebrating both of those things?? - The guy from the apprentice is what ?

Post by 2rsf » Tue, Mar 17, 2020, 11:30 AM UTC

Galanwe wrote: post #479

throwaway78359 wrote: post #232

Microsoftie here — throwaway for obvious reasons. Microsoft doesn’t do everything right but the GitHub acquisition has honestly gone better than I ever expected. Rather than forcing GitHub to adopt Microsoft centric policies, Microsoft has adopted more GitHub stuff, especially from a product POV. GitHub still runs as a separate company (different logins and health care and hiring systems) with its own policies and po…

> Microsoft doesn’t do everything right but the GitHub acquisition has honestly gone better than I ever expected. Rather than forcing GitHub to adopt Microsoft centric policies, Microsoft has adopted more GitHub stuff, especially from a product POV. GitHub still runs as a separate company (different logins and health care and hiring systems) with its own policies and point of view. That's what we said about the Skype…

Post by CSMastermind » Tue, Mar 17, 2020, 11:39 AM UTC

grandpoobah wrote: post #512

CSMastermind wrote: post #508

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I'm not at Microsoft anymore but I was there when Skype got acquired and I had a bunch of friends who worked on it. You have to understand that the technology underlying Skype at the time was very brittle and poorly designed. Google almost bought Skype before Microsoft did and backed out after they got a look at the code. When Microsoft acquired it Skype was routing its traffic over port 80 for example.

Isn't using port 80 a trick to avoid being blocked by firewalls?

Post by cfv » Tue, Mar 17, 2020, 11:52 AM UTC

greymalik wrote: post #505

throwaway78359 wrote: post #232

Microsoftie here — throwaway for obvious reasons. Microsoft doesn’t do everything right but the GitHub acquisition has honestly gone better than I ever expected. Rather than forcing GitHub to adopt Microsoft centric policies, Microsoft has adopted more GitHub stuff, especially from a product POV. GitHub still runs as a separate company (different logins and health care and hiring systems) with its own policies and po…

> after we saw what happened to yarn What happened with yarn? As a very casual user of it, it seems to work well and have pushed npm to innovate a bit when it was stagnating. But I haven’t followed it lately. Were there technical issues or political drama?

Post by ratww » Tue, Mar 17, 2020, 11:58 AM UTC

slow_donkey wrote: post #491

cool-RR wrote: post #485

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GitHub is still a good choice, but working with their more recent APIs, like GitHub Actions, I feel Microsoft's touch. They're slowly changing for the worst.

Ooh details please. I've looked at the docs but haven't used actions yet. What makes it worse than circle? The initial capabilities look similar and circle really needs a competitor with how flaky their service has recently been.