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How to fight the coronavirus SARS-CoV-2 and its disease, Covid-19 [pdf]

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Re: How to fight the coronavirus SARS-CoV-2 and its disease, Covid-19 [pdf]

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Post by patrickbeeson »

Alex3917 wrote: post #14

> 95% don’t need to go to the hospital Including people who get at asymptomatically, maybe. Of people who get any symptoms, it's 15 - 20%. And even if you're not in that 15 - 20%, you may still have permanent or long lasting lung and heart damage. Stay inside; your grandparents were asked to go to war for several years, you're just being asked to spend a couple months playing video games.

I would encourage folks to go outside run, bike, hike, etc. There's plenty of healthy options that won't put you at risk from contracting the virus.

Re: How to fight the coronavirus SARS-CoV-2 and its disease, Covid-19 [pdf]

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Post by Alex3917 »

yovagoyu wrote: post #32
Alex3917 wrote: post #14

> 95% don’t need to go to the hospital Including people who get at asymptomatically, maybe. Of people who get any symptoms, it's 15 - 20%. And even if you're not in that 15 - 20%, you may still have permanent or long lasting lung and heart damage. Stay inside; your grandparents were asked to go to war for several years, you're just being asked to spend a couple months playing video games.

Ehhh... there are more productive ways to spend your time than playing video games. I agree we should look out for the older generation though. For me, it's my parents (boomers, who fought no wars) I worry about, my grandparents (who fought) have passed already.

I mean sure. If commit to spending even an hour a day on some sort of self-improvement activity, whether it's getting in shape or teaching yourself some new skill or whatever, you'll come out of this way better than you went in.

Re: How to fight the coronavirus SARS-CoV-2 and its disease, Covid-19 [pdf]

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Post by mcsb4 »

There seems to be a second virus in the west: DMTMW - dont mention the M word - M like mask. Purely looking at the data, the doubling of the infection rate in western countries is between 2-3 days.

Looking at Asian countries:

Japan: 8-9 days - many people wearing masks

Thailand: 10+days - most people wearing masks

China: negative values - all people wearing masks (not just in Wuhan) and handsanitizer everywhere

Cost for masks: 0.2$/person per day.

Let's hope that China can ramp up the mask and hand sanitizer production to supply the rest of the world asap, because the west doesn't have the capability.

Re: How to fight the coronavirus SARS-CoV-2 and its disease, Covid-19 [pdf]

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Post by Causality1 »

DoreenMichele wrote: post #27
underbluewaters wrote: post #4

I'd like to see more information on what to do if you are sick. Even younger people have gotten serious respiratory complications and it would be great to have information on how to care for yourself or your family short of heading to the hospital and contributing to the overwhelming of their staff.

1. Onions are good lung support. 2. Watermelon is good kidney support. This is helpful if you are experiencing bloating. 3. Hot peppers are antimicrobial, antiviral, antifungal and open a cell channel that helps you dump fluids. 4. Tea is an astringent. Drinking it can help reduce fluid in the lungs. 5. Spicy foods are medicinal. Some stuff that helps combat infection include: onions, garlic, hot peppers, black peppe…

Off the top of my head, half of that is utter bullshit. For example, your diet does not affect the pH of your blood or body, so alkaline foods do nothing.

Re: How to fight the coronavirus SARS-CoV-2 and its disease, Covid-19 [pdf]

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Post by [deleted] »

throwaway_pdp09 wrote: post #39
DoreenMichele wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1. Onions are good lung support. 2. Watermelon is good kidney support. This is helpful if you are experiencing bloating. 3. Hot peppers are antimicrobial, antiviral, antifungal and open a cell channel that helps you dump fluids. 4. Tea is an astringent. Drinking it can help reduce fluid in the lungs. 5. Spicy foods are medicinal. Some stuff that helps combat infection include: onions, garlic, hot peppers, black peppe…

Have you any clinical evidence that any of this actually works?

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Re: How to fight the coronavirus SARS-CoV-2 and its disease, Covid-19 [pdf]

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Post by narag »

patrickbeeson wrote: post #41
Alex3917 wrote: post #14

> 95% don’t need to go to the hospital Including people who get at asymptomatically, maybe. Of people who get any symptoms, it's 15 - 20%. And even if you're not in that 15 - 20%, you may still have permanent or long lasting lung and heart damage. Stay inside; your grandparents were asked to go to war for several years, you're just being asked to spend a couple months playing video games.

I would encourage folks to go outside run, bike, hike, etc. There's plenty of healthy options that won't put you at risk from contracting the virus.

I don't know where you are, but here in Madrid it's forbidden. Also the gym is closed so it's Netflix + HN.

Re: How to fight the coronavirus SARS-CoV-2 and its disease, Covid-19 [pdf]

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Post by pengaru »

thotypous wrote: post #30
DoreenMichele wrote: post #22

The last slide is a hand sanitizer recipe. It's probably the most useful thing here.

Unfortunately, here in Brazil an old ban exists on selling ethanol, due to concerns of it causing accidents with fire and explosions. The only way for an ordinary person to acquire ethanol is in the form of - take a guess - hand sanitizers (or vehicular ethanol at gas stations, but it is inappropriate for that purpose). So currently hand sanitizers are completely out of stock and soap is the only alternative.

You can't get isopropanol/isopropyl/"rubbing" alcohol as sold in pharmacies usually near the hydrogen peroxide? You can mix this with aloe vera lotion in ~50:50 mix for a diy hand sanitizer.

Re: How to fight the coronavirus SARS-CoV-2 and its disease, Covid-19 [pdf]

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Post by outworlder »

throwaway_pdp09 wrote: post #40
raphlinus wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there an authoritative source for this other than the French public health authorities? I haven't seen references to it at all in epi Twitter.

Seems you're putting twitter above a country's health authority. That seems odd. Not necessarily wrong, just odd.

Not necessarily wrong? I'm intrigued by the thought process.

Re: How to fight the coronavirus SARS-CoV-2 and its disease, Covid-19 [pdf]

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Post by diggan »

raphlinus wrote: post #9
Leary wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Be careful with NSAIDs as they may exacerbate symptoms. [1] [1]: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/14/anti-inflammat...

Is there an authoritative source for this other than the French public health authorities? I haven't seen references to it at all in epi Twitter.

Yeah, was published in Lancet https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanres/article/PIIS2213-2...
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