Is covid-19 the biggest world event since WW2?
Depends on how you measure bigness. It could very well be the biggest world event since WW2 in terms of the number of ordinary people whose daily routines are directly affected.
“I'm not sure there is an acceptable solution to the problem we are facing”
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#12In this event, the solution will be the creation of a permanent, South Korea and China inspired infrastructure for testing, tracking and constraining infectious citizens by all developed countries. Regardless of the privacy and civil liberty concerns, I think that's where we'll eventually end up, and to your children it will one day seem crazy that a person with an infectious illness was once able to freely walk the streets.
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#13> If the covid-19 pandemic leads to a global economy collapse
Very unlikely it happens. At some point people/countries will decide to take the risk rather than letting their own economies collapse (which is in the interest of absolutely no one, even the patients at risk).
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#15I don't agree with the conclusion. We can scale down our economies and still maintain production of essentials by ``drumroll`` scaling back shit that nobody needs.
Starting with an overblown healthcare admin system in the US, IMHO, but also including less inflammatory non-essential things like yet another range of plastic toys and luxury perfumes and and and.
Essentially in this scenario, we should take this as an opportunity to prune all Bullshit Jobs [1] and focus on things securing social, mental, and healthcare subsistence.
Oh and maybe just don't move troops all around the planet to fuck up other people's place. It wasn't a good idea before, (both during the 1918 influenza wave and after that) and it's certainly not a good idea now. Save that money and manpower, put it to use for something constructive for a change.
There you go, I guess I just pissed on every holy cow this crowd has. You know where the downvote button is.
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#16> If the covid-19 pandemic leads to a global economy collapse Very unlikely it happens. At some point people/countries will decide to take the risk rather than letting their own economies collapse (which is in the interest of absolutely no one, even the patients at risk).
The collapse coin has a flipside: New growth.
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#17This is probably the shittiest reading experience possible. Covered in ad and stitched together of 11 tweets. WTF? Where has rationality been heading that such a medium became the go-to tool to transport important messages? Oh wait, a red-haired in the corridors of power is using it too..
This is a Twitter thread summarizer, that stitches together all the separate posts in a thread. You can enjoy the original here[1], with the experience that the platform creators intended.
[1] https://twitter.com/BallouxFrancois/status/12388371580074475...
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#18In this event, the solution will be the creation of a permanent, South Korea and China inspired infrastructure for testing, tracking and constraining infectious citizens by all developed countries. Regardless of the privacy and civil liberty concerns, I think that's where we'll eventually end up, and to your children it will one day seem crazy that a person with an infectious illness was once able to freely walk the…
> tracking and constraining infectious citizens by all developed countries.
That would be ridiculous if you get to millions of people infected, because that would effectively destroy all economic activity. Even during the 1918-1919 epidemic with high mortality rates people did not stop going to work. Our strategy to isolate ourselves is fine if it's short term but it can't continue more than a few months.
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#19> The correlation between per-capita GDP and health (life expectancy) is essentially perfect.
I've seen this said before; this is not considering correlation vs. causation. High per capita GDP correlates exceedingly well with technological and scientific mastery.
A global economic collapse would lead to some lives lost and be very painful, obviously. But if the economic damage is in the tourism industry or entertainment that will be far less damaging than if the food supply lines collapse or the oil stops flowing. One of those is inconvenient, the other would lead to militaries being deployed.
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#20I am 100% in agreement with the author. It’s refreshing to see someone admit how much they don’t know — one of the most annoying things about our social media era, when combined with this current situation, is that everyone thinks they’re an expert and that their course of action is the One True Way to defeat the virus. Fact of the matter is, we’re flying blind, and governmental action is more about crowd control than a real fix.
My advice to the young people for whom this virus is not a major threat is ... Enjoy yourself, enjoy your time with your friends. There’s a chance that this virus could mutate to pose as much of a threat to young, healthy people as old, unhealthy ones (and ironically there’s a chance this whole quarantine thing might be of assistance, as OP carefully alludes to). That’s not a sci-fi disaster scenario, that’s just 1918, baby.
Governments really need to increase the penalties — meaning, jail time, huge fines, etc — on spreading misinformation on social media. That is as big of a problem as any during this time. And so-called “medical experts” on Twitter or Facebook or whatever, trying to validate themselves, are a large component of that. If we don’t get people to stop playing games online about this now, we are going to have a full-scale meltdown if this virus mutates later in the year.