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Outbound flights are going to get a hell of a lot more expensive if all the planes have to return to the US empty.
Not to mention probably there's only a small use case of going to Europe without needing to return.
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[EDIT] Since the downvotes have started pouring in, I have to ask. Do you really attribute to this error to malice rather than stupidity? Given that the administration immediately (within minutes? edit: [0]yes, within minutes) made a correction I find it difficult to believe it was deliberate misinformation. I mean, miscommunication happens. Trump didn't invent the plan, he was advised by others and gave the go-ahead…
Don't blame him, blame the incompetent people he hired?
If you go back one administration and search 'Obama clarifies' on google, you find the same thing. Turns out that press machines involving dozens of people are prone to human error.
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My 2 cents. All reductions in (non-essential) travel are good in a pandemic. That doesn't mean it's sufficient, but it's something positive. I think we would all like to see stronger social distancing rules domestically (in the US), but here the US has a problem as it granted the President broad discretionary powers to suspend international travel but not domestic gatherings, which can't be banned via executive order…
> even if congress were to pass a law banning such gatherings, there would be first amendment implications Isn't there an obvious compelling state interest?
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> Americans have big garages to stockpile supplies No they don't. No one in NYC, Boston, San Francisco, Seattle, ... have big garages to stockpile supplies and most of the US lives in those big cities with apartments without garages. In the suburbs they do but that's a minority of the population.
> No one in NYC, Boston, San Francisco, Seattle, ... have big garages to stockpile supplies I think most of San Francisco by area is zoned "RH-" (Residential Housing), and most of that RH- area is RH-1 or RH-1D (single family). Most of the homes in those regions have lots of space. We're not just talking about Zuck's mansion either, plenty of homes in the Sunset or other West SF areas that have that kind of room.
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That study isn't saying anything contrary to what the CDC is saying. Or am I the parent that you're agreeing with, and you meant "regardless of whatever the CDC is saying?"
Maybe I misinterpreted what you meant. Your quote from the CDC said that the virus has poor survivability on surfaces, but the study I linked concluded it can survive for 2-3 days.
Any method of transmission that infects fewer than one additional person on average are effectively negligible on the overall exponential curve.
So yes, it is likely possible that symptomatic people can infect others, and it is likely possible that a contaminated doorknob can infect people for a week, but if these things happen rarely enough, it doesn't matter. The virus will die out if other routes of infection (e.g. the more typical person to person transmission) can also be made rare enough.
This is insane. I haven’t been really scared of the pandemic yet, but if this is the response, now, I’m terrified. Changing the number of infected people entering the community does nothing when we already have transmission happening within the community at some fixed rate which is determined by the community . “Flattening the curve” of an exponential function means changing the rate of growth, not the fucking consta…
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Misspoke? It was a prepared statement read off a teleprompter. Please don't excuse it like a slip of the tongue.
[EDIT] Since the downvotes have started pouring in, I have to ask. Do you really attribute to this error to malice rather than stupidity? Given that the administration immediately (within minutes? edit: [0]yes, within minutes) made a correction I find it difficult to believe it was deliberate misinformation. I mean, miscommunication happens. Trump didn't invent the plan, he was advised by others and gave the go-ahead…
But I also don't believe this speech would have happened tonight if it had been a up day on the stock market. I think that is the only lens they are looking at this through.
Important updates: a) This does not apply to US citizens or their family members[1]. b) This does not apply to cargo[2]. It appears that the President misspoke regarding point 2. [1] https://www.dhs.gov/news/2020/03/11/homeland-security-acting... . [2] https://twitter.com/AnaSwanson/status/1237921160500830208
a) is because as I understand it it's /very/ hard to legally refuse to readmit a US citizen. You can seize all their stuff at the border but besides arresting them for a crime you can't really keep them from coming home.
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In some places this is relevant, in other places such as Scandinavia and Germany, other than public transportation it is not.
Are you saying people have big backyards, eat loads of tskeour and order stuff online, in Scandinavia? Have you ever lived in Scandinavia?
Poke around https://www.hemnet.se/topplistor
I feel like there are some particular cultural attributes in the United States that make this useless at this point. The United States has a very individualistic attitude. Sure, we can pause travel from Europe, but the current administration is very anti-europe. Can we pause travel in the US? I strongly doubt that we can effectively given the strong anti-expertise attitudes as well. My guess is that the United States…