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New York deploys National Guard to New Rochelle, establishes containment center

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Re: New York deploys National Guard to New Rochelle, establishes containment center

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Post by blast »

pjc50 wrote: post #19
paulmd wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This board doesn't like politics but frankly it is the administration. They fired the CDC's pandemic response teams a couple years ago because they didn't want to fund it. They don't like admitting there's a crisis because it looks bad for them, they want to sweep the whole thing under the rug. That has translated into the administration stopping the CDC from doing their jobs, whether implicitly ("if you make this in…

This is all correct, and it's going to be downvoted because tribalism is more important than not getting a potentially fatal disease.

The post itself seems tribalist.

Re: New York deploys National Guard to New Rochelle, establishes containment center

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Post by pjc50 »

thearn4 wrote: post #3
StanislavPetrov wrote: post #2

Here on nearby Long Island cases are popping up all over the place with no known links to other diagnosed cases, including 2 school bus drivers. Despite this, barely anyone is being tested, even those who are symptomatic. This crisis is being terribly mishandled. https://www.fox5ny.com/news/two-long-island-bus-drivers-diag...

It's the lack of information and sense that there are no adults in the room among our leadership that is the most frustrating. It worries me more than the virus itself.

Self-contradictory instructions and a lack of common sense: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/immigration/article24...

Re: New York deploys National Guard to New Rochelle, establishes containment center

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Post by r00fus »

StanislavPetrov wrote: post #2

Here on nearby Long Island cases are popping up all over the place with no known links to other diagnosed cases, including 2 school bus drivers. Despite this, barely anyone is being tested, even those who are symptomatic. This crisis is being terribly mishandled. https://www.fox5ny.com/news/two-long-island-bus-drivers-diag...

At what point does it become criminally incompetent? What's the endgame here for those who dally while the world burns?

Re: New York deploys National Guard to New Rochelle, establishes containment center

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Post by alexandercrohde »

thearn4 wrote: post #3
StanislavPetrov wrote: post #2

Here on nearby Long Island cases are popping up all over the place with no known links to other diagnosed cases, including 2 school bus drivers. Despite this, barely anyone is being tested, even those who are symptomatic. This crisis is being terribly mishandled. https://www.fox5ny.com/news/two-long-island-bus-drivers-diag...

It's the lack of information and sense that there are no adults in the room among our leadership that is the most frustrating. It worries me more than the virus itself.

In a way that may be a good thing. I'm personally not very worried about this virus, and I think it does a great job of highlighting what various parties' motives are and efficacies are. (e.g. CDC, Bill Gates, NYC)

I'm hopeful change will come out of this.

Re: New York deploys National Guard to New Rochelle, establishes containment center

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Post by throwaway5752 »

adventured wrote: post #23
throwaway5752 wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

By an order of magnitude: https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-testing-covid-19...

That's misleading. The Feds state that they've sent several hundred thousand tests to private labs and hospitals which do not report their figures directly to CDC. They don't know how many have been used at this point (which is bad, but not as bad as them not sending out hundreds of thousands of tests). "Earlier on Tuesday, Department of Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar said he couldn’t provide the figur…

As of 4pm ET today https://twitter.com/covid19tracking (aggregating known state testing results) shows about 5100 tests performed, or 15 tests per million people.

Re: New York deploys National Guard to New Rochelle, establishes containment center

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Post by alexandercrohde »

dforrestwilson wrote: post #5
taborj wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've not been keeping up; what's the obstacle to getting tested? Insurance companies not covering? Hospitals not willing? Patients not going in?

# of test kits. The US can currently test something like 7800 people per day as of yesterday. Some other system constraints to think about are: 1M hospital beds 70k ventilators

Well, that's only the constraint because the FDA disallows importing foreign kits, and has prevented private companies from manufacturing them, no?

So in a sense, the obstacle is (deliberately?) awful policy.

Re: New York deploys National Guard to New Rochelle, establishes containment center

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Post by seilrse »

alexandercrohde wrote: post #34
thearn4 wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's the lack of information and sense that there are no adults in the room among our leadership that is the most frustrating. It worries me more than the virus itself.

In a way that may be a good thing. I'm personally not very worried about this virus, and I think it does a great job of highlighting what various parties' motives are and efficacies are. (e.g. CDC, Bill Gates, NYC) I'm hopeful change will come out of this.

You might not be worried, but millions of elderly and otherwise immunocompromised people are. Millions more are worried on their behalf.

Re: New York deploys National Guard to New Rochelle, establishes containment center

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Post by claudeganon »

alfiedotwtf wrote: post #28
SkyPuncher wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From my understanding, state and local labs HAVE been able to source them. The CDC has been refusing to authorize them for testing. Univ. of Washington seems to be an outlier as they were able to get approval under an existing research study they have.

> The CDC has been refusing to authorize them for testing. This is new to me. Link?

See this reporting:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/02/health/coronavirus-testin...

https://www.latimes.com/science/story/2020-03-06/chaos-at-ho...

Re: New York deploys National Guard to New Rochelle, establishes containment center

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Post by dugditches »

StanislavPetrov wrote: post #2

Here on nearby Long Island cases are popping up all over the place with no known links to other diagnosed cases, including 2 school bus drivers. Despite this, barely anyone is being tested, even those who are symptomatic. This crisis is being terribly mishandled. https://www.fox5ny.com/news/two-long-island-bus-drivers-diag...

They used to post the number of tests on the site. They've stopped.

https://www1.nyc.gov/site/doh/health//health-topics/coronavi...

if you pull up the cached version, they reported 300 tests done as of yesterday morning.

Re: New York deploys National Guard to New Rochelle, establishes containment center

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Post by fgonzag »

downerending wrote: post #27

Might not sound like it, but the fact that they're taking this seriously is good news. If there are cases in New Rochelle, probably large numbers of other commuters taking the New Haven line down into Manhattan have been exposed. We need to start practicing on what's coming, and right now, China's looking like the most successful model.

It's basically impossible to quarantine entire cities in a democracy, especially with an election coming up.

I mean, you can, but it's going to cost you so much political capital that you'll be out of the game entirely. And I don't see many politicians willing to put their jobs on the line for it.

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