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The opt-out illusion: how we have acquiesced to losing our privacy

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Re: The opt-out illusion: how we have acquiesced to losing our privacy

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It should also be a law that customers can not be opted-in by default, or through consent buried in a 100 page TOS agreement. There should be a requirement that the question is presented to the user in a clear way.

It is. The consent has to be explicit and informed.

But even companies like Apple (which claims to champion privacy) blatantly don’t seem to care https://blog.gingerlime.com/2020/does-apple-care-about-your-...

Re: The opt-out illusion: how we have acquiesced to losing our privacy

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>By the way, if you are a programmer and you implement those sleazy dialogs, think about your life choices. I'm sure this stern talking to really made them evaluate their life choices. We need more people on HN to take a stand like this, downvotes be damned. We all have to be the change we want to see.

> We need more people on HN to take a stand like this, downvotes be damned. As the funding dries up the community will close ranks even more so. We are already getting to the point on this forum where anything not outwardly positive (not even "negative") said about certain subjects is instantly donwvoted. Being as how downvoting is something that requires 500 karma, these are not bots or spam accounts; they are veter…

I'd say we're well past that point. I gave up ages ago and just spam throwaways now. Dang says it undermines the sense of community when people do that, I think the community already does a fine job of undermining itself.

Re: The opt-out illusion: how we have acquiesced to losing our privacy

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HN is ycombinator, which are the people who helped make reddit happen. Is it really that big of a surprise they're doing stuff like this?

I am not defending HN/YC here, but the user's noted irony is referring to TFN, located at the-tls.co.uk, not talking about HN/YC.

Thanks that is what I meant. Sorry to confuse people.

By the way HN by the way seems to be the nicest site in terms of privacy, simplicity and page load times.

Re: The opt-out illusion: how we have acquiesced to losing our privacy

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I have been mulling cancelling my Facebook account for a while now. Today as I was browsing I saw several Scientology ads. I know Facebook doesn't have an agenda per se - you have the money, they have the adspace - but I was still struck by the brazenness of advertising something whose ethical dubiousness has been so thoroughly publicized. Facebook will never change unless they are forced to. We have signed away perh…

Step 1: Admit these people are not your friends and you don't actually have as many friends as you would like and that their lives are meaningless to know about

Step 2: Download your backup copy of horribly over-compressed images and videos that Facebook ruins on your behalf

Step 3: Deactivate and cancel your Facebook

Step 4: Enjoy life

Re: The opt-out illusion: how we have acquiesced to losing our privacy

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>But the pop-up won’t let us pass without clicking “agree”. Opting out is an illusion. I mean this is a weird way to phrase it but you definitely cannot participate in modern society without hindering yourself in various meaningful ways if you do not "opt-in" to giving up your privacy. "Opt-in" requirements have consequently struck me as "privacy theatre" which mostly irritates. I don't see any solution for the curre…

>> But the pop-up won’t let us pass without clicking “agree”. Opting out is an illusion. You can generally just delete the popup from the DOM.

True but fails to address the illegality, coercion, and vast multitude of users.

Re: The opt-out illusion: how we have acquiesced to losing our privacy

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> I have been mulling cancelling my Facebook account for a while now Going cold turkey is never easy. If you're having trouble withdrawing, consider what I did over the past few years: 1. Turn off notifications for the Facebook app on your phone; then 2. Turn off notifications for the Facebook Messenger, Instagram, et cetera apps on your phone; next 3. Delete the Facebook app from your phone; then 4. Delete the Faceb…

>Going cold turkey is never easy. If you're having trouble withdrawing, consider what I did over the past few years The main issue, at least for me, is that everything social that is happening is arranged through Facebook. My kids school events, social events in the town i live in, hell even the good old paper adds from our local grocery store has been replaced with posts on Facebook. Everything is announced and coor…

I haven't used my facebook account in over a year. Even if I logged in to follow something like this I'd never see it because I'd never remember to log in and look.

Re: The opt-out illusion: how we have acquiesced to losing our privacy

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" Do we call out the people working on Tor or encryption because of how it is used by some to cause harm? " I am pretty sure, they thought alotabout the pros and cons of their work and decided a long time ago that the positive outweight the negative a lot. But what is the social positive in intentional programming dark pattern UI? I don't see any.

A few possibilities: Disagreeing it is a dark pattern to begin with. For example, see how many people love opt out consent for organ donation and overlook the consent implications it has in that case. Another example is requiring email address at signup, is that actually needed and is it a dark pattern to not allow a person to sign up until they provide one, even though a more industrial user could give you a fake/te…

Does that really convince yourself? It stays the same to me. Intentionally misleading.

Re: The opt-out illusion: how we have acquiesced to losing our privacy

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Since when? I've never been asked for a selfie. If you must, it doesn't seem like a big problem still. Go to thispersondoesnotexist.com, hit F5 a few times to find a nice portrait, then Google "driver license template" and apply basic Photoshop skills.

It probably means you're using your real name and/or your real phone number. Or have an established account with photos of you. I did not check if images from thispersondoesnotexist.com would work to pass the selfie check, but my guess is that they wouldn't. A professional portrait of someone from a Western country who has never been seen on any photos Facebook owns, not even in the background? That's a red flag. Als…

I'm using a psuedonym but my real phone number. I don't see what they would compare it to though. It might as well just be a burner phone.

I do not believe they check it; if you provide an ID scan, it's good enough.

Because you have no choice but to join.

Re: The opt-out illusion: how we have acquiesced to losing our privacy

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Pi-Hole does support regex and wildcard based blocking

regex is _extremely_ resource inefficient and should not be used with large sets of rules. Dnsmasqs domain redirecting feature (address=/adhost.com/#) is not supported by pihole. Is there any other way to wildcard block full domains in Pi-Hole? Look for example in your list: d41.co, admaster.com.cn, mixmarket.biz chances are extremely slim that all (current) hostnames of those type of domains are currently being bloc…

> regex is _extremely_ resource inefficient

No, it's not. Is there something wrong with their implementation?

Re: The opt-out illusion: how we have acquiesced to losing our privacy

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regex is _extremely_ resource inefficient and should not be used with large sets of rules. Dnsmasqs domain redirecting feature (address=/adhost.com/#) is not supported by pihole. Is there any other way to wildcard block full domains in Pi-Hole? Look for example in your list: d41.co, admaster.com.cn, mixmarket.biz chances are extremely slim that all (current) hostnames of those type of domains are currently being bloc…

If the regex rules do not require backreferences, it should be possible to implement them in such a way that they run in constant time with respect to the number of rules.

Regex with backreferences isn't really regex at all, in that it no longer corresponds to the regular languages.
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