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Re: Johns Hopkins CSSE Covid-19 Global Case Dashboard

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Post by craftinator »

makomk wrote: post #145
hedora wrote: post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yesterday, I read the US had 100 confirmed cases, and had tested 500 people. Trump fired the a big part of the CDC that deals with pandemics back in 2018 and hasn’t replaced them. I don’t think the US government will make any serious effort to contain it, despite the recent theatrics from congress. Not testing sick people will inflate the official mortality rate. If the disease hits 70% of the population (projection…

I've seen comparisons like that doing the rounds. They're just plain wrong. The 500 number is the number of patients that had been tested by the CDC about a week ago, excluding state and local labs, whereas the 100 confirmed cases is a newer figure and a lot of those cases were diagnosed by the very state and local lab tests that aren't being counted. From looking at an old version of the CDC web page, at the point w…

If I fired my team of system security engineers, then a data breach was discovered, and great harm came to my company because there was no one there familiar enough with the system to know what to do, you'd probably think it was my fault. Ya know, because I did piss poor risk management. And did not conduct due diligence with risk analysis. Especially if my company had more than enough funding to have them there... Because data breaches don't happen often, but they are BAD NEWS when they do; there's a good reason that job exists.

Re: Johns Hopkins CSSE Covid-19 Global Case Dashboard

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Post by craftinator »

lhorie wrote: post #155
claudeganon wrote: post #148

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is this evidence of this “risk/cost analysis” you keep alluding to? Frontline staff are describing dangerous, chaotic circumstances in hospitals because testing is being delayed: https://www.latimes.com/science/story/2020-03-06/chaos-at-ho... If the US isn’t deploying anywhere near the response of countries with demonstrably curbed spreads in places like Seattle and California, what do you think, explicitly, jus…

I'm not comparing what one country is doing in relation to others. I'm saying that the CDC has their own criteria of what cases qualify for tests. They're not going just wake up one morning and say "yep let's ramp up to 300M test kits because people in the web are up in arms", that's not how it works. They look at the data they have then decide what to do. That's what risk/cost analysis is. What you seem to be missin…

It comes down to the fact that the US is not testing enough people to make ANY sort of assessment, other than that COVID-19 exists here. In South Korea, they have tested enough of their population to make reasonable, even statistically accurate extrapolations. In the US, we may as well not be testing. It does no good at the rate we are doing it. The CDC done fucked up with their initial testing policy, which was likely chosen because they knew that the number of testing kits would bottleneck them to only testing world travellers. This was likely caused by a lack of funding and infrastructure (staff), which is quite clearly caused by our president deciding to fire the people who know how to handle pandemics.

Re: Johns Hopkins CSSE Covid-19 Global Case Dashboard

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Post by LargoLasskhyfv »

stickac wrote: post #4

Non-mobile version: https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594...

You know? There is that hamburger menu in the upper right corner, which you could just tap, klick, whatever and get oh my gosh, a desktop version!

Re: Johns Hopkins CSSE Covid-19 Global Case Dashboard

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Post by davidw »

ethbro wrote: post #159
davidw wrote: post #150

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Let's do some numbers: Georgia, with 50 tests/day and 10,000,000 people is at 0.005 per 1K people. Oregon, with 40 tests/day and 4,200,000 people, is at 0.0095 per 1K people. Italy, with about 2500 tests/day and about 60,000,000 people, is doing around 0.04 per thousand people. It's about an order of magnitude more. The point isn't a pissing match between states, it's that the entire US has not responded well so far.…

More testing != useful testing. The fact that Georgia and Oregon are testing at virtually equivalent rates is what's wrong. I feel like ~50/day is an appropriate number for GA. I feel like ~50/day is not an appropriate number for Oregon (sandwiched in-between Washington and California). The federal goverent should be doing a stronger job of quarterbacking this to allocate scarce resources. If Oregon needs surge capac…

This is a decent article explaining how things have gone wrong in various ways:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/what-went-wrong-with-t...

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Post by JoeAltmaier »

creaghpatr wrote: post #119
JoeAltmaier wrote: post #110

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Wasn't the CDC budget cut drastically by the current administration? You reap what you sow.

Nope this was misinformation sowed for political purposes: https://apnews.com/d36d6c4de29f4d04beda3db00cb46104

Maybe I'm just not reading this right, but the right column is all red. Doesn't red mean "smaller than last year"?

https://www.cdc.gov/budget/documents/fy2020/fy-2020-detail-t...

Re: Johns Hopkins CSSE Covid-19 Global Case Dashboard

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Post by harambae »

BeyondLimits99 wrote: post #158
stickac wrote: post #4

Non-mobile version: https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594...

I've been working on a mobile friendly version you might like. Https://outbreak.robmellett.com

Bitdefender trips on your webpage, just FYI

Re: Johns Hopkins CSSE Covid-19 Global Case Dashboard

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Post by mdrzn »

claudeganon wrote: post #23
Svip wrote: post #16

I wish they also separated European countries by subnational jurisdiction. In the US they do it by cities, surely they should be able to separate Italian provinces, French departments and German states. They are reported like that in the news. I mention this because it's particularly northern Italy that's hard hit, not southern Italy. I am still planning on travelling to southern France (by car!) around Easter, and I…

Only Korean levels of surveillance testing and Singaporean levels of contact tracing and quarantine have provided anything like an accurate picture of the disease’s progression. Nowhere in Europe is taking these actions at comparable levels, so you’re not going to be able to assess risk using something like this map.

We do have a map about Italy with a lot more accuracy: https://statistichecoronavirus.it/coronavirus-italia/
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