BMW builds _cars_, not Apps. They pride themselves in craftsmanship. The Logo badge on the actual car is a three dimensional, physical thing. Instead of embracing that, they made it flat like an App icon. It will look shit on cars and it does not communicate that BMW builds _real machines_. Everybody is going crazy about going digital and they forget what they are good at and what the customer likes them for.
> They pride themselves in craftsmanship. Designing a good logo is also craftsmanship.
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Additionally it isn't well composed. I learned graphics design from a guy who actually learned it by using his hands to pit down the letters. He had us move one black square around on a white page for 3 hours and explain why we put it where we did. Then we were allowed two squares of arbitrary size, later colors etc. If you are learning it from that basic level you cannot unsee badly unbalanced design. You cannot jus…
Okay, help someone who never learned anything about graphic design from anyone. why isn't it well composed?
What a poor result.
Re: BMW’s new flat logo is everything that’s wrong with modern logo design
#153BMW builds _cars_, not Apps. They pride themselves in craftsmanship. The Logo badge on the actual car is a three dimensional, physical thing. Instead of embracing that, they made it flat like an App icon. It will look shit on cars and it does not communicate that BMW builds _real machines_. Everybody is going crazy about going digital and they forget what they are good at and what the customer likes them for.
Even in apps you could argue if flat design is the best way to go. Since Google maps changed their icon I have a hard time finding it instantly between the dozen other flat app logos on my screen.
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> Companies don't just have some intern change their logo up for no reason at all. Companies redesign their brand (websites, logos, etc.) all the time and it often correlates with a new hire who wants a "fresh start" with the brand. Jens Thiemer who is the SVP of Customer and Brand and spearheaded this effort has been at BMW a little over 1 year. It's a way of staking your claim at a company and putting your literal…
Just out of interest are you a freelancer?
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> Companies don't just have some intern change their logo up for no reason at all. Companies redesign their brand (websites, logos, etc.) all the time and it often correlates with a new hire who wants a "fresh start" with the brand. Jens Thiemer who is the SVP of Customer and Brand and spearheaded this effort has been at BMW a little over 1 year. It's a way of staking your claim at a company and putting your literal…
The new guy can suggest a rebranding, but I'm sure the CEO and board will have something to say about it/final approval.
So CEOs and the board might not push back as hard as you'd imagine, especially if they don't come from a product/design/brand background.
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> They pride themselves in craftsmanship. Used to. These days, not so much. And they're misfiring quite a bit. For example, the new X3 xDrive30e gets a measly 18 miles of electric range (EPA; real-world likely less). All of that added complexity and weight for very little benefit (in 2020 -- 10 years ago it would have been alright). No 3er manuals in the US anymore. Have you seen the rear of the new 3er which looks l…
You are conflating design decisions with craftsmanship. I would argue that they still pride themselves in the execution of the designs, even if you (and I) disagree with some of the design direction.
Employees maybe but the company strives to be a mobility service provider nowadays.
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Lexus has a good rep for being super solid and reliable. Always has been. But why shouldn't be, it's a Toyota.
Ironically the least solid, least reliable car I have ever owned was a Toyota. After 8 years it was very poor. Other, older, cars I have enjoyed more reliability with have included a Honda, a Kia, a Fiat and a Lada.
In general they were all beaters that barely ran, but they ran. One corolla went for 2 or 3 years without an oil change and had 2 cylinders with low compression. Friend never got it fixed, but the car was still running (although with very low power). I actually think the general reliability of these cars leads to them being in worse shape. They're running so why bother to fix it. The owners also had a drive it until it dies approach, just generally took a long time to die.
Re: BMW’s new flat logo is everything that’s wrong with modern logo design
#159BMW builds _cars_, not Apps. They pride themselves in craftsmanship. The Logo badge on the actual car is a three dimensional, physical thing. Instead of embracing that, they made it flat like an App icon. It will look shit on cars and it does not communicate that BMW builds _real machines_. Everybody is going crazy about going digital and they forget what they are good at and what the customer likes them for.
>Everybody is going crazy about going digital... This Logo design change is so out of left field too, since the craze about "going digital" feels almost a decade old at this point.
Re: BMW’s new flat logo is everything that’s wrong with modern logo design
#160What the hell... Yeah its flat but that's obviously not the problem, why would you eliminate the color black from your very famous blue black and white logo.
I agree. It seems like the obvious solution would have been to just remove the light gradient—and maybe the bevels.