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So college kids shouldn't be allowed to offer a lower price for a service because someone else decided to finance their family through Uber?
If college kids on Uber are hurting families who rely on the income of a taxi/cab/whatever driver, why wouldn’t we step in? There’s no golden rule that says we can’t intervene in the market to ensure people can have a decent life.
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That's a fair point, they forbid you refusing short trips most places I'm familiar with. I wasn't really thinking about that in this case, mostly people asking you to take them sketchy places or belligerent customers which are the only reasons I consider it. An important distinction is it's local law that forbids that, not a company policy like with Uber. Just a few days ago I had some drunk customers screaming at me…
Just a few days ago I had some drunk customers screaming at me in my cab and shaking my seat under the impression I was legally required to drive them. They earned a very long walk home to think about it. I had a nearly identical situation when I Ubered. In spite of multiple warnings, their behavior didn't improve. When I dropped them off in the middle of nowhere they insisted that I was required by law to carry them…
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Can't drivers can deny the fare without penalty if the work offer doesn't pay what they want?
Declining can adversely affect the driver's rating. How it does so, and the imolications of that rating, are unilaterally decided by Uber. There is no negotiation; as a driver, you either agree or you don't drive for Uber.
How unfortunate. The vast majority of drivers don't want this. If they wanted full-time driving jobs, they would get one, yet they choose Uber for the flexibility. This is going to hurt most drivers than help. We can already see the results of this here in California because of AB5 and I doubt most proponents of this law have ever driven for Uber in the first place.
3) the freedom to set the terms and conditions for providing one's services.
With Uber want to work? Press a button. Want to take a break? Press a button. Want to work again? Press a button. Take as long a break as you want. Work as long as you want. No timecards. No obnoxious coworkers. No intrusive questions. No douchebag bosses making your life a living hell. In what other job do you have this sort of freedom without the instability of traditional selfemployment? What more could you ask fo…
> Its side hustle money for bored college kids with some free time. Except it isn’t. If it was then Uber wouldn’t be trying to setup vehicle leasing schemes for their drivers. If it was true then I would actually meet some college kid drivers, rather that 30 year old migrants. If you’re a single mother raising 5 kids on Uber, then you probably have no choice. Telling them they’re “doing it wrong” won’t feed their kid…
You can always come up with some scenario where it doesn't work while ignoring millions of drivers who are doing just fine. Would that mother in your example be better off without Uber? What if she can't work steady shifts every day and needs the flexibility?
People are perfectly capable of choosing what's best for themselves, they don't need the government to tell them what to do.
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Taxi drivers can pick up anyone on their own terms (with some limitations from local laws). Uber drivers on the other hand can only legally pick up rides dispatched from Uber or another ride-sharing app. That's all they're insured for and that's all local laws will allow because they don't have status as licensed taxi drivers in a licensed vehicle. A customer can hand me cash and nobody gets a piece except the govern…
What are you talking about? Maybe you are referencing how Uber works in the some American state? This is France and that's not how the regulation works there. US-centrisism at it's finest.
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Then you get less innovation, less productivity, and less upward mobility. Don't pretend there isn't a cost. Goofing off in your cubicle and then going off to a picket line to keep your UBI isn't real independence. The future lies in something greater than the wageslave model of America or the dependency model of Europe.
Empirical evidence suggests otherwise. For productivity the US trails behind most EU countries and the EU as a whole [1] Same again for social mobility, US trailing badly [2] So if the cost of the EU model is higher productivity and social mobility, then I’m all in. As for innovation, that’s harder to comment on. But the success of US tech companies is certainly notable. [1] https://data.oecd.org/lprdty/gdp-per-hour-…
One of the funniest statements ever following an assertion of empiricism.
The left's idea of "leading" is always amusing. The left in the socialist paradises in Europe will keep depending on US technology and posting on sites created by US innovation. At least until they depend maybe on China and then they won't even have the choice to practice evading their own country's speech laws.
The leftists in the US will just keep abusing the privileges they are afforded by those who keep them in luxury because that's just what they do. The system is good to them that way.
I'll now go "wage slave" so I can afford to travel to places that produce old buildings you visit.
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In your shed example, a builder could contact you and negotiate the price (perhaps the $100 price you set is completely unrealistic). That's not possible with Uber - there is no price negotiation - only declining/accepting a ride. Similar argument for changing toppings on a cake - a caterer can negotiate changes to the cake - an Uber driver has no such flexibility. Regardless, given corporate (human?) nature is to le…
> That's not possible with Uber - there is no price negotiation - only declining/accepting a ride. That is price negotiation. The market price changes all the time in response to supply and demand. If you're not willing to do it for a lower price and someone else is, you lose business to them. An hour later there is more demand and you can get some business at your price. Or you can lower your price (accept both ride…
How unfortunate. The vast majority of drivers don't want this. If they wanted full-time driving jobs, they would get one, yet they choose Uber for the flexibility. This is going to hurt most drivers than help. We can already see the results of this here in California because of AB5 and I doubt most proponents of this law have ever driven for Uber in the first place.
Wouldn't flexibility be: 3) the freedom to set the terms and conditions for providing one's services.
Uber is a matchmaking service that comes with certain rules and objectives so the marketplace works better for everyone, and flexibility to work when and where you want is usually most important.
Perhaps we need a 3rd category to account for this kind of work.