We tried jitsi for a while and found it did not perform well for screen sharing in large groups (which we use extensively). We switched to whereby.com (former appear.in) which is not free for group meetings (used to be though) but is much more reliable. Creating new meeting rooms works the same way as in jitsi
Jitsi Meet: open-source video conferencing
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#32I have an eerie feeling that one of the next major "scandals" in technology will center around companies who learn how to abuse the real-time video/audio capabilities of the browser without disclosing (clearly) to end users the implications. These days anyone with a bit of programming knowledge can now open WebRTC sessions from the server, decrypt the contents, and multiplex streams back to clients (great for large g…
There was a bunch of abuse that already happened with host candidates, was fixed recently though! [0] Tor also did a bunch of really great work figuring out all the ways you can be fingerprinted.[1]
When I shared [2] a lot of people gave me flack for enabling malware. I don't come from that background, so hard to think 'how can people abuse this technology'
It is too late now to roll back all the WebRTC stuff in the browser now though :) Definitely would be mind blowing how much data is flowing because of it (and how much money is being made because of it).
[0] https://webrtchacks.com/dear-ny-times/
[1] https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/Snowflake/...
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#33I want to see how well this works. I'm here for 5 minutes: https://meet.jit.si/SmellyLemonsTeachImpolitely All join as many as you can. Also note that Fx isn't a "fully supported browser" apparently...
How did it go?
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#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
The FSF situation is a bit different, assigning your copyrights to them is making a donation to charity. They also allow you to take back the copyright at any time.
At least originally, the reason for assigning copyright (and signing a waiver) was because there were some high profile cases of employers claiming that some contributions were owned by them when employees did work in their spare time. I believe it was RMS who decided that legally it was just safer to ask for copyright assignment. I believe that he later relaxed significantly on the position, but I think it's still c…
it was my understanding that the reason for copyright assignment was that the FSF believed it would be difficult to defend the copyright of a project if it was owned by multiple people.
with several high profile cases in the linux kernel i think this belief has been shown to be overcautious and maybe this has led to a relaxation of the position.
Re: Jitsi Meet: open-source video conferencing
#35Why would you use this instead of Google Hangout?
Because it’s not Google, and open-source.
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#36Why would you use this instead of Google Hangout?
In my experience, even the somewhat disappointing performance of Jitsi is better than Hangouts. My worst case was a video call between Italy, Slovenia, Canada and 3x Korea and while Jitsi struggled, Hangouts was straight up unusable. I don't know whether Hangouts got confused and picked a geo-average server on some island or something, but Jitsi was at least mostly usable.
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#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think it's unwise to offer 1) proprietary solutions in the age of surveillance capitalism. 2) offer in-browser cryptography to ensure security. I don't see any end-to-end encryption elements in that. Your data gets essentially delivered to the service. Do we really want that? Haven't the companies like FB already shown you should never trust them with your data? I mean, I'm baffled to see people would go in circles…
Umm what phone are you using? I hope you realize that contrary to what you think Android isn't completely open source and some of the most key parts are owned by probably the biggest enemy of privacy on Earth.
But it's more opensource than iOS.
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#38Ok but how can I call mumble from jitsi? If you don't solve this, it's yet another silo.
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#39In 2020, a company that provides a product for free without a standard business model will be met with skepticism: not just from investors, but from users.
How is jit.si able to do this for free where many other companies charge? Are they monetizing user data? Or trying to upsell some parent company services? Is this an honest-for-goodness non-profit because someone was fed up with video conferencing?
None of these are potentially deal-breakers, but they need to be transparent about why they are doing this for free and what they are getting out of it. In 2020, the understanding of "free" is much more sophisticated than it was in say 2010.
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#40We were using this for a while to do meetings for sr.ht, but we recently switched to - believe it or not - Mumble. It's old and unsexy but damn it's reliable.
Mumble is insanely awesome. It's still my goto app if you don't need video (which is most of the time for me). The only downside (maybe really an upside) is that you need to spend considerable amounts of time and effort setting it up for good audio quality. But the latency just can't be beat.
What are the settings that you twiddle for better audio quality?