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Jitsi Meet: open-source video conferencing

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Re: Jitsi Meet: open-source video conferencing

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This is a pretty common thing to do – even the FSF does this for GNU projects.

The FSF situation is a bit different, assigning your copyrights to them is making a donation to charity. They also allow you to take back the copyright at any time.

Out of curiosity how do they allow you to take back the copyright at any time? That seems like it would defeat the purpose of copyright assignment.

Re: Jitsi Meet: open-source video conferencing

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The FSF situation is a bit different, assigning your copyrights to them is making a donation to charity. They also allow you to take back the copyright at any time.

Out of curiosity how do they allow you to take back the copyright at any time? That seems like it would defeat the purpose of copyright assignment.

Copyright assignment lets the entity take full management of the copyright including license enforcement etc.

The idea of assignment to FSF is not merely to guarantee to the world that the original copyright holder won't offer competing licenses or something.

Re: Jitsi Meet: open-source video conferencing

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Out of curiosity how do they allow you to take back the copyright at any time? That seems like it would defeat the purpose of copyright assignment.

Copyright assignment lets the entity take full management of the copyright including license enforcement etc. The idea of assignment to FSF is not merely to guarantee to the world that the original copyright holder won't offer competing licenses or something.

Right, but my original question remains. How would the FSF allow the original copyright holder to claw back the copyright after assignment?

That seems like it would be potentially incredibly disruptive (e.g. if a contributor decides several years after a lot of work has been built on top of the contributed code to claw back the rights), especially because as far as I'm aware there isn't a separate license you give the FSF on a contribution, just the assignment. AFAICT it wouldn't even make sense to give the FSF a license because you don't own the code anymore, the FSF does.

I can't find anything on the FSF website that allows this.

Re: Jitsi Meet: open-source video conferencing

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I've been using Jitsi and Google Hangouts for years, and in terms of reliability/quality, I can't really tell any difference. Haven't used Zoom much. The nice thing about about Jitsi is it's the most simple process I've seen: just tell people to go to a simple vanity URL (URL you get to design) and that's all. I sometimes find Hangouts confusing with all the invitation, accepting, etc. For people I videochat with oft…

Bear in mind that your URL is your password, and you might occasionally get randos joining you if it's too simple a URL. Happened to me once at work, got some giggling people whilst we were pairing, they then hung up immediately :)

There is an option to add password to the meeting on the bottom right hand corner.

Re: Jitsi Meet: open-source video conferencing

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I have an eerie feeling that one of the next major "scandals" in technology will center around companies who learn how to abuse the real-time video/audio capabilities of the browser without disclosing (clearly) to end users the implications.

These days anyone with a bit of programming knowledge can now open WebRTC sessions from the server, decrypt the contents, and multiplex streams back to clients (great for large group video chats). A great capability IMO, but immense potential for abuse by bad actors. I think now is a perfect time for people "in the know" to start educating the public on this.

Re: Jitsi Meet: open-source video conferencing

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Not open source but we've been using https://team.video for our standup calls. The timer feature in the agenda sidebar can be pretty handy sometimes.

I think it's unwise to offer 1) proprietary solutions in the age of surveillance capitalism. 2) offer in-browser cryptography to ensure security. I don't see any end-to-end encryption elements in that. Your data gets essentially delivered to the service. Do we really want that? Haven't the companies like FB already shown you should never trust them with your data? I mean, I'm baffled to see people would go in circles…

Umm what phone are you using? I hope you realize that contrary to what you think Android isn't completely open source and some of the most key parts are owned by probably the biggest enemy of privacy on Earth.

Re: Jitsi Meet: open-source video conferencing

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We were using this for a while to do meetings for sr.ht, but we recently switched to - believe it or not - Mumble. It's old and unsexy but damn it's reliable.

Mumble is insanely awesome. It's still my goto app if you don't need video (which is most of the time for me). The only downside (maybe really an upside) is that you need to spend considerable amounts of time and effort setting it up for good audio quality. But the latency just can't be beat.

Re: Jitsi Meet: open-source video conferencing

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a pretty common thing to do – even the FSF does this for GNU projects.

The FSF situation is a bit different, assigning your copyrights to them is making a donation to charity. They also allow you to take back the copyright at any time.

At least originally, the reason for assigning copyright (and signing a waiver) was because there were some high profile cases of employers claiming that some contributions were owned by them when employees did work in their spare time. I believe it was RMS who decided that legally it was just safer to ask for copyright assignment. I believe that he later relaxed significantly on the position, but I think it's still common practice on GNU projects.
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