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The Junk Mail Men: Selling Your Data for over a Century (2019)

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Re: The Junk Mail Men: Selling Your Data for over a Century (2019)

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The internship I was assigned in college was a local junkmail mill. I was supposed to sign an NDA at some point but never did. Apparently they were able to use FOIA requests targeted at localities to get a lot of information for mail campaign targeting that all got put in a big database. Seemed a little sketchy.

No need to do that when the USPS will sell it to them.

Re: The Junk Mail Men: Selling Your Data for over a Century (2019)

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It varies by location. Most people I meet are just professionals that don't care, most people who do care are just entertained because professionals have better things to do than argue with activists.

Good too know. FWIW I'm not activist, just about fairness and balance myself - what good for the goose is good for the gander as they say.

>FWIW I'm not activist, just about fairness and balance myself

Lobbing identity politics grenades when it has nothing to do with the subject at hand is activism. It's the softer kind, but it's still activism.

Please don't do this. It does more to entrench people's positions than anything else.

Re: The Junk Mail Men: Selling Your Data for over a Century (2019)

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I was under the impression that any genderisation was to be avoided in our modern times. More so when the "Junk Mail" is in quotes followed by `men`, it disassociates the past term of "Mail Man" by the use of quotes in the original article title. Had it been postman or postmen, then that would be the legacy terminology used, but in this context, it does somewhat seem to stick out more. After all if you flip the gende…

It varies by location. Most people I meet are just professionals that don't care, most people who do care are just entertained because professionals have better things to do than argue with activists.

Could you please stop creating accounts for every few comments you post? We ban accounts that do that. This is in the site guidelines: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.

You needn't use your real name, of course, but for HN to be a community, users need some identity for others to relate to. Otherwise we may as well have no usernames and no community, and that would be a different kind of forum. https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme...

Re: The Junk Mail Men: Selling Your Data for over a Century (2019)

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post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good too know. FWIW I'm not activist, just about fairness and balance myself - what good for the goose is good for the gander as they say.

>FWIW I'm not activist, just about fairness and balance myself Lobbing identity politics grenades when it has nothing to do with the subject at hand is activism. It's the softer kind, but it's still activism. Please don't do this. It does more to entrench people's positions than anything else.

Sorry, it's not something I'd of query had it not stood out how the title was framed in a negative manner with the spacing and quotes.

Duly noted.

Re: The Junk Mail Men: Selling Your Data for over a Century (2019)

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The "old school" data brokers were keeping track of menstrual cycles 20 years ago for timed targeted ads. They were very specific about many things. The new kids Google and Facebook didn't invent this game.

Mind posting some links about this? I'd be very interested in reading about it.

I think the show Mad Men mentions this, Peggy if I'm not mistaken. Lunar cycles correlate with menstrual cycles. [1]

[1] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3716780

Re: The Junk Mail Men: Selling Your Data for over a Century (2019)

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The internship I was assigned in college was a local junkmail mill. I was supposed to sign an NDA at some point but never did. Apparently they were able to use FOIA requests targeted at localities to get a lot of information for mail campaign targeting that all got put in a big database. Seemed a little sketchy.

No need to do that when the USPS will sell it to them.

I think the FOIA's gots extra info like who got a permit to build a pool.
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