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Swiss government files criminal complaint over Crypto AG scandal involving CIA

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Re: Swiss government files criminal complaint over Crypto AG scandal involving CIA

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Post by boomboomsubban »

infinity0 wrote: post #7

In the grand scheme of things it doesn't matter that you can read everyone's messages when your economy is growing at 1%, the economy of your supposed "friend" that you're selling the messages to is growing at 2%, and the economy of the people whose messages you're reading is growing at 6-7%. Maybe they should have used the money to develop 5G instead, lol. > Switzerland’s Prime Minister, Simonetta Sommaruga For a su…

>For a supposed website about intelligence, strange of them to use the phrase "Prime Minister" to describe the President of Switzerland

I'm not seeing that quote used, but mistaking "prime minister" and "president" is an understandable mistake.

Re: Swiss government files criminal complaint over Crypto AG scandal involving CIA

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Post by infinity0 »

boomboomsubban wrote: post #11
infinity0 wrote: post #7

In the grand scheme of things it doesn't matter that you can read everyone's messages when your economy is growing at 1%, the economy of your supposed "friend" that you're selling the messages to is growing at 2%, and the economy of the people whose messages you're reading is growing at 6-7%. Maybe they should have used the money to develop 5G instead, lol. > Switzerland’s Prime Minister, Simonetta Sommaruga For a su…

>For a supposed website about intelligence, strange of them to use the phrase "Prime Minister" to describe the President of Switzerland I'm not seeing that quote used, but mistaking "prime minister" and "president" is an understandable mistake.

It was there like 20 minutes ago, quoting her saying (paraphrasing, from my memory) "We'll deal with this when we have all the facts". Maybe one of the editors is watching this thread.

Making that mistake for a layperson is understandable sure, but a website about intel, you have to lol. Probably why they fixed it up so quickly.

Re: Swiss government files criminal complaint over Crypto AG scandal involving CIA

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Post by rjsw »

infinity0 wrote: post #7

In the grand scheme of things it doesn't matter that you can read everyone's messages when your economy is growing at 1%, the economy of your supposed "friend" that you're selling the messages to is growing at 2%, and the economy of the people whose messages you're reading is growing at 6-7%. Maybe they should have used the money to develop 5G instead, lol. > Switzerland’s Prime Minister, Simonetta Sommaruga For a su…

She is a "minister" as well though, most ceremonial Presidents are not.

Re: Swiss government files criminal complaint over Crypto AG scandal involving CIA

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Post by 2Crisp »

infinity0 wrote: post #10
Mvandenbergh wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure how GDP growth is relevant here, especially when those higher growth rates are in countries with much lower base GDPs. GDP growth is not an eternal structural characteristic of an economy and there is no reason to believe that it will not slow down as GDP/capita converges.

"We're already ahead, we don't need to run any faster, we'll use our energy to do pointless things like spy on everyone instead". Don't let me stop you thinking that but I'll keep running faster, thanks.

The idea that less developed economies have much faster potential growth is well studied in economics: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convergence_(economics)

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make here.

Re: Swiss government files criminal complaint over Crypto AG scandal involving CIA

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Post by chinathrow »

rolltiide wrote: post #5

Protip: Nobody knows who owns any business entity, if they dont want you to know. Here German intelligence and US intelligence owned a Swedish entity. Thats how free trade works.

That has nothing to do with free trade - it's about privately held stocks. Which is a worldwide thing.

Re: Swiss government files criminal complaint over Crypto AG scandal involving CIA

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Post by boomboomsubban »

infinity0 wrote: post #12
boomboomsubban wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>For a supposed website about intelligence, strange of them to use the phrase "Prime Minister" to describe the President of Switzerland I'm not seeing that quote used, but mistaking "prime minister" and "president" is an understandable mistake.

It was there like 20 minutes ago, quoting her saying (paraphrasing, from my memory) "We'll deal with this when we have all the facts". Maybe one of the editors is watching this thread. Making that mistake for a layperson is understandable sure, but a website about intel, you have to lol. Probably why they fixed it up so quickly.

>Making that mistake for a layperson is understandable sure, but a website about intel, you have to lol.

The website is run by laypersons who actively deal in covering the president or prime minister of hundreds of countries. Covering intel doesn't really prevent this mistake.

Re: Swiss government files criminal complaint over Crypto AG scandal involving CIA

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Post by fh973 »

101404 wrote: post #4

This case should be quoted in every discussion about 5G mobile equipment here in Europe.

Towards which conclusion? Backdoors are common practice and so we have to assume their existance in foreign equipment? Or we did it first, so let's give the others a chance to deliver backdoors to us?
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