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Angiotensin converting enzyme 2 (ACE2) crucial in SARS-coronavirus lung injury (2005)

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Re: Angiotensin converting enzyme 2 (ACE2) crucial in SARS-coronavirus lung injury (2005)

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Another interesting side effect could be other temporizing measures in the inpatient setting. My understanding from a brief skim of older research papers is that the ACE inhibitors and angiotensin receptor blockers that we use today, like lisinopril or losartan, could upregulate the expression of ACE-2 receptors. If a patient is admitted with coronavirus, discontinuing blood pressure medications such as lisinopril an…

I suppose that explains why a lot (most?) of the people who died also suffered from high blood pressure.

it doesnt explain it, but it is something worth chasing to its end for a possible therapeutic benefit.

its does suggest that such comorbidities such as high blood pressure or existing lung disorder disease or other wellness impairment ---

--- could contribute to mortality

Re: Angiotensin converting enzyme 2 (ACE2) crucial in SARS-coronavirus lung injury (2005)

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What are the implications of this?

the meds modulating ACE family of proteins are also commonly available as blood pressure meds, actually. But interestingly, the side effect is...coughing... But the research behind what is needed to modulate ACE is already there..

Sorry I don't know much about the topic.

0. How can I find out if I have too high (?) ACE2, and what can I do about it? Are there symthoms at least?

1. What does modulating ACE means? 2. Do you mean shall everyone get those blood pressure meds? Or what is the relation now with these meds in terms of action? Does it mean people who need it must get it for sure? 3. Research what is needed to modulate ACE: can you please give a pointer.

Re: Angiotensin converting enzyme 2 (ACE2) crucial in SARS-coronavirus lung injury (2005)

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What are the implications of this?

this is the mechanism a coronavirus assembly exploits to enter a cell. the virion uses a peplomer [one of its spikes] to dock with the cell at the ACE2 receptor then wrenches it apart like cutting a door right out of its frame, then the virus inserts itself into the cell leaving its envelope and protien accessories fused with the cell membrane. -if this mechanism can be blocked it will inhibit viral entry -if it can…

Sorry I don't know much about the topic.

How can I find out if I have too high (?) ACE2, and what can I do about it? Are there sympthoms at least?

Re: Angiotensin converting enzyme 2 (ACE2) crucial in SARS-coronavirus lung injury (2005)

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What are the implications of this?

the meds modulating ACE family of proteins are also commonly available as blood pressure meds, actually. But interestingly, the side effect is...coughing... But the research behind what is needed to modulate ACE is already there..

Does modulation mean increasing or decreasing ACE2? I assume it decreases and its good, right?

Re: Angiotensin converting enzyme 2 (ACE2) crucial in SARS-coronavirus lung injury (2005)

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How can I find it out if I have high ACE2?

having high ACE2 is not something that you need to worry about as you only need enough to get the virus in you.

- having "high" ACE2 could actually be a benefit if it turns out that you retain proper ACE2 functionality after infection and through the course of the physiological challenge of the virus.

Re: Angiotensin converting enzyme 2 (ACE2) crucial in SARS-coronavirus lung injury (2005)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

the meds modulating ACE family of proteins are also commonly available as blood pressure meds, actually. But interestingly, the side effect is...coughing... But the research behind what is needed to modulate ACE is already there..

Does modulation mean increasing or decreasing ACE2? I assume it decreases and its good, right?

modulation means in this case means dynamically increase or decrease in order to stay on a curve

Re: Angiotensin converting enzyme 2 (ACE2) crucial in SARS-coronavirus lung injury (2005)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

the meds modulating ACE family of proteins are also commonly available as blood pressure meds, actually. But interestingly, the side effect is...coughing... But the research behind what is needed to modulate ACE is already there..

Sorry I don't know much about the topic. 0. How can I find out if I have too high (?) ACE2, and what can I do about it? Are there symthoms at least? 1. What does modulating ACE means? 2. Do you mean shall everyone get those blood pressure meds? Or what is the relation now with these meds in terms of action? Does it mean people who need it must get it for sure? 3. Research what is needed to modulate ACE: can you pleas…

have a look here ;

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22458302

Re: Angiotensin converting enzyme 2 (ACE2) crucial in SARS-coronavirus lung injury (2005)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

this is the mechanism a coronavirus assembly exploits to enter a cell. the virion uses a peplomer [one of its spikes] to dock with the cell at the ACE2 receptor then wrenches it apart like cutting a door right out of its frame, then the virus inserts itself into the cell leaving its envelope and protien accessories fused with the cell membrane. -if this mechanism can be blocked it will inhibit viral entry -if it can…

Another interesting side effect could be other temporizing measures in the inpatient setting. My understanding from a brief skim of older research papers is that the ACE inhibitors and angiotensin receptor blockers that we use today, like lisinopril or losartan, could upregulate the expression of ACE-2 receptors. If a patient is admitted with coronavirus, discontinuing blood pressure medications such as lisinopril an…

Can you please give me a pointer on these researches?

Also its not clear to me: do blood pressure mediacations in general upregulate the expression of ACE-2, or is it possible that they downregulate it? (Not lisonopril or losartan)

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