Live data from Hacker News

A two-person startup already uses twenty-eight other tools

acrossapp.com

221–230 of 468 posts

Re: A two-person startup already uses twenty-eight other tools

#221
post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They only spend $227/month in total. Why even bother centralizing? That's peanuts. I spend more than that on my personal AWS bill.

Funny and here i am trying to save 5 usd/month because my VPS is overpowered. It really depends on where you live. 227usd is certainly not peanuts.

Is that for a personal or commercial project?

Re: A two-person startup already uses twenty-eight other tools

#222
post #208

IMO many people end up with a tool fetish, but some of these tools aren't worth it in a small startup: 1. You don't need Slack ($13 / month) as a two person startup — just do email and Skype 2. Notion ($16 / month) — this sounds like a glorified shared note taking app — just use Google Docs, or Dropbox Paper, or text files in a Dropbox folder 3. Sentry ($26 / month) — OK, this might be worth it, but if you have a hig…

Why is Discord always ignored in discussions of slack alternatives? It's literally a slack clone. Are you all just put off by the marketing or the fact that it's not exclusively used by 'professionals'?

Honestly, it's probably because it's marketed towards gamers. It's a really useful product for sure but the gamer marketing definitely affects people's perception.

Re: A two-person startup already uses twenty-eight other tools

#223

IMO many people end up with a tool fetish, but some of these tools aren't worth it in a small startup: 1. You don't need Slack ($13 / month) as a two person startup — just do email and Skype 2. Notion ($16 / month) — this sounds like a glorified shared note taking app — just use Google Docs, or Dropbox Paper, or text files in a Dropbox folder 3. Sentry ($26 / month) — OK, this might be worth it, but if you have a hig…

I agree with your point in principle, and it's my natural tendency to optimize out dependencies on recurring charges for services. But I actually think this perspective is wrong, or more precisely, focusing on this type of optimization will make your business less likely to succeed. The problem is ROI, $227 a month adds up to $2724 a year, which, assuming you're in the US (or similar cost of living area), is just suc…

Perhaps. But it creates a false and unsustainable culture. If you're going to bootstrap then do so. Afterall, scarcity is the mother of innovation.

Inexpensive or not, unnecessary is still unnecessary. What's next, $3k standing desks?

Re: A two-person startup already uses twenty-eight other tools

#224
post #202
post #193

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I disagree. Slack is so much more than a discussion app. With integrations you can monitor your whole app in one place: - sales - bizdev - ops - deployment - support Same goes for Notion. We pay $16 but it is an awesome bang for the buck: - crm - collaborating blog draft - project management - finance - knowledge base And again, in one place.

Or you can set up email notifications and do the exact same thing in any mail client, like people have been doing for ages. But that's not cool any more I guess.

I think you underestimate how pervasive and usable Slack is over email.

Email is still fine and necessary but is mostly for long form asynchronous communication. Organizing email inboxes is a pain. Spam is a pain.

Slack is pre-organized and automatically integrated with a dozen other tools. It’s the beating heart of a distributed organization.

Re: A two-person startup already uses twenty-eight other tools

#226

It’s interesting how hard it is to gauge the value of tools you don’t yet use. I’m the founder of a startup that recently subscribed to Gripeless ( https://usegripeless.com ). If you look at the Show HN thread and the other threads about Gripeless floating around the internet, you’ll see a lot of commenters saying “this is too expensive”, “I don’t see anyone buying this” or something along those lines. I was skeptica…

Hotjar does this (collect user feedback in the page) and more and has a free plan. I work there so I'm biased, but yeah.

Re: A two-person startup already uses twenty-eight other tools

#227
post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Voluntary redistribution through loss making startups is the comfortable alternative to wealth taxes. That's just a little bit of redistribution from the top 1% to the top 10%, at best. Tech startups and their new fancy apps aren't putting food on the table or paying the health care bill for the bottom 90%.

Anything is better than nothing, isn't it? Savings rate goes up with income. On a percentage basis, the 10% are going to be spending more money at restaurants, shops, etc. This is, arguably, preferable to the 1% investing it in the stock market.

>This is, arguably, preferable to the 1% investing it in the stock market.

Arguably is the right word.

The global economy is a closed system, so money put anywhere makes its way elsewhere. Spending money in restaurants and shops is most easily visible, but not necessarily any better than other investment.

Even in your example, the 1% putting money in the stock market provides capital for companies as well as income for banks and brokers and finance folk of all sorts (which can then be spent in restaurants and shops). Sure, lower income people have a higher propensity to spend a marginal dollar (because they have to), but that isn't necessarily "better".

Re: A two-person startup already uses twenty-eight other tools

#228
post #202
post #193

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I disagree. Slack is so much more than a discussion app. With integrations you can monitor your whole app in one place: - sales - bizdev - ops - deployment - support Same goes for Notion. We pay $16 but it is an awesome bang for the buck: - crm - collaborating blog draft - project management - finance - knowledge base And again, in one place.

Or you can set up email notifications and do the exact same thing in any mail client, like people have been doing for ages. But that's not cool any more I guess.

nothing to do with "cool". I could never go back to email after using slack-like software. It's so much more efficient.

Re: A two-person startup already uses twenty-eight other tools

#229
post #208

IMO many people end up with a tool fetish, but some of these tools aren't worth it in a small startup: 1. You don't need Slack ($13 / month) as a two person startup — just do email and Skype 2. Notion ($16 / month) — this sounds like a glorified shared note taking app — just use Google Docs, or Dropbox Paper, or text files in a Dropbox folder 3. Sentry ($26 / month) — OK, this might be worth it, but if you have a hig…

Why is Discord always ignored in discussions of slack alternatives? It's literally a slack clone. Are you all just put off by the marketing or the fact that it's not exclusively used by 'professionals'?

For what it's worth, most gaming startups I know (including my own) seem to use Discord.

Re: A two-person startup already uses twenty-eight other tools

#230
post #208

IMO many people end up with a tool fetish, but some of these tools aren't worth it in a small startup: 1. You don't need Slack ($13 / month) as a two person startup — just do email and Skype 2. Notion ($16 / month) — this sounds like a glorified shared note taking app — just use Google Docs, or Dropbox Paper, or text files in a Dropbox folder 3. Sentry ($26 / month) — OK, this might be worth it, but if you have a hig…

Why is Discord always ignored in discussions of slack alternatives? It's literally a slack clone. Are you all just put off by the marketing or the fact that it's not exclusively used by 'professionals'?

1. Can't share large files with discord

2. Customer service doesn't respond quickly even with nitro plan

3. Confusing UX

Post reply on HN