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Re: A two-person startup already uses twenty-eight other tools

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Post by QuelqueChose »

bad_user wrote: post #151

IMO many people end up with a tool fetish, but some of these tools aren't worth it in a small startup: 1. You don't need Slack ($13 / month) as a two person startup — just do email and Skype 2. Notion ($16 / month) — this sounds like a glorified shared note taking app — just use Google Docs, or Dropbox Paper, or text files in a Dropbox folder 3. Sentry ($26 / month) — OK, this might be worth it, but if you have a hig…

> Internal communication and supporting customers in shared Slack channels

If you're using Slack solely for the purpose of talking to your co-founder over a few categorized channels then the price is definitely not worth it over using email etc. IMO - unless you're willing to pay $13 a month to click on reaction emojis.

However Slack's ability to be used as a sort of centralized dashboard for most if not all of the other services listed on the blog article might just be convenient enough to merit that price point. In addition to supporting customers and probably being able to chat with them right through the app, it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if they've set up one-click integrations for the other paid suites including Sentry, LinkedIn Sales, Hubspot.

Re: A two-person startup already uses twenty-eight other tools

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Post by tirpen »

pijora wrote: post #193
bad_user wrote: post #151

IMO many people end up with a tool fetish, but some of these tools aren't worth it in a small startup: 1. You don't need Slack ($13 / month) as a two person startup — just do email and Skype 2. Notion ($16 / month) — this sounds like a glorified shared note taking app — just use Google Docs, or Dropbox Paper, or text files in a Dropbox folder 3. Sentry ($26 / month) — OK, this might be worth it, but if you have a hig…

I disagree. Slack is so much more than a discussion app. With integrations you can monitor your whole app in one place: - sales - bizdev - ops - deployment - support Same goes for Notion. We pay $16 but it is an awesome bang for the buck: - crm - collaborating blog draft - project management - finance - knowledge base And again, in one place.

Or you can set up email notifications and do the exact same thing in any mail client, like people have been doing for ages.

But that's not cool any more I guess.

Re: A two-person startup already uses twenty-eight other tools

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Post by CameronBanga »

bad_user wrote: post #151

IMO many people end up with a tool fetish, but some of these tools aren't worth it in a small startup: 1. You don't need Slack ($13 / month) as a two person startup — just do email and Skype 2. Notion ($16 / month) — this sounds like a glorified shared note taking app — just use Google Docs, or Dropbox Paper, or text files in a Dropbox folder 3. Sentry ($26 / month) — OK, this might be worth it, but if you have a hig…

Their product is built on the Slack platform. They probably need (and want) to be paid users if not for anything more than having a better understanding of their customer.

Why you’d start (and fund?!) a business built entirely on a “hip” chat client, in a world where we’ve seen how walled gardens have ruined business models overnight (mobile app stores) is the real question. But it’s not my money (or apparently the blog authors either). So spend away!

Re: A two-person startup already uses twenty-eight other tools

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Post by girishso »

moksly wrote: post #139
girishso wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

MS Teams is very buggy/has less features, we're researching other tools atm.

I think the less features is an advantage. But they certainly don’t work as well if you’re web-only and getting access to the actual desktop applications is a more expensive license. I don’t particularly like teams, I do like planner and onenote colaboration, but I also really, really dislike slack, so that has to weigh into what you take from my opinion on the subject.

Ok, to be fair - Teams video calls is much better than hangouts we were using earlier.

We do like chatting where threads are not a second thought like Slack (and UX is not "perfect" for threads).

But major pain point for us is sharing code snippets or inline code in chat, inline code - just doesn't work and code snippets - really buggy, forget syntax highlighting.

Re: A two-person startup already uses twenty-eight other tools

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Post by girishso »

dependsontheq wrote: post #101
girishso wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

MS Teams is very buggy/has less features, we're researching other tools atm.

Yes we tried to switch to Teams from Slack ... but everyone hated it with passion. Hate is not good for productivity...

My thoughts exactly!

Re: A two-person startup already uses twenty-eight other tools

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Post by nottorp »

city41 wrote: post #14

What is the benefit of paying for GSuite for such a small team? Also Github? You can now have private repos with up to three collaborators for free.

The $7/month option is flexible enough for a small company and is not per user, thus negligible.

The per user options start to add up...

Re: A two-person startup already uses twenty-eight other tools

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Post by brianwawok »

calmworm wrote: post #155
Hnrobert42 wrote: post #33

I am the CIO of a mostly remote, cybersecurity startup (50 FTEs). I balance between not single-threading all choices through me and not letting things get too out of hand. That means no one is every really happy. E.g., we use Uberconference for videoconferencing. We thoroughly looked at a bunch of others and chose UC for its functionality, price, and simplicity (every conference gets a simple phone number, no stupid…

Your CFO got sold ... twice. Concur and NetSuite are both enterprise level software that a company with 50 FTEs does not need. NetSuite is a never ending money pit with varying results. I dealt with a very similar situation, in which a project manager("VP") talked our owner into using NS, but it was over $100k/year and commitments were 2 years per seat at something like $5k. He ALSO wanted to do the roll out himself.…

Hah this story sounded familiar. Makes sense.

Re: A two-person startup already uses twenty-eight other tools

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Post by krilly »

bad_user wrote: post #151

IMO many people end up with a tool fetish, but some of these tools aren't worth it in a small startup: 1. You don't need Slack ($13 / month) as a two person startup — just do email and Skype 2. Notion ($16 / month) — this sounds like a glorified shared note taking app — just use Google Docs, or Dropbox Paper, or text files in a Dropbox folder 3. Sentry ($26 / month) — OK, this might be worth it, but if you have a hig…

Why is Discord always ignored in discussions of slack alternatives? It's literally a slack clone. Are you all just put off by the marketing or the fact that it's not exclusively used by 'professionals'?

Re: A two-person startup already uses twenty-eight other tools

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Post by jmull »

AdrianB1 wrote: post #131
Hnrobert42 wrote: post #33

I am the CIO of a mostly remote, cybersecurity startup (50 FTEs). I balance between not single-threading all choices through me and not letting things get too out of hand. That means no one is every really happy. E.g., we use Uberconference for videoconferencing. We thoroughly looked at a bunch of others and chose UC for its functionality, price, and simplicity (every conference gets a simple phone number, no stupid…

Sorry, but you are not a CIO, you just have a fancy meaningless title with no real correspondence to what it means. If the CFO decided to buy NetSuite without asking anyone, you care not CIO and he is acting as CEO because he can override you with no consequences. Just saying.

If CO titles are meaningless if they don't confer absolute authority over then they are pretty much all meaningless, so what's your point?

Re: A two-person startup already uses twenty-eight other tools

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Post by Ididntdothis »

emj wrote: post #161
goatherders wrote: post #149

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Every conferencing solution shares one trait: at least one person on a call of N+1 people will have trouble joining and getting everything to work. I have been making the same "joke" for years on calls that everyone on the call should join me in quitting our jobs to create a teleconference solution that works. Hardyharhar. (The practical solution for teleconferencing issues is to get people to join a couple minutes e…

If the host has at least tried the conference solution before the meeting it is usually ok for us, but that quickly become a specialized task that only one person care about, when s/he is away there is a high chance of wasted time.

I think the rule is that the other conferencing system always works better than the current system until you buy it. Then they all seem to fail :)

Right now we are using MS Teams which so far has been reliable. I am just waiting for the day when it becomes flaky too.

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