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Re: Ask HN: How are you preparing for COVID-19 disruptions?

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What about guns/ammo?

I wasn't going to talk about that because I think it'd be frowned upon on HN, but now that you mention it... I own a .22 long rifle and have tons of ammo. I've been thinking of getting a glock but haven't gotten around to it. It's not the best for self defense, but it's a heck of a lot better than no gun at all. It's ridiculously easy to shoot accurately. The ammo is cheap and ubiquitous, which is another advantage.…

> I wasn't going to talk about that because I think it'd be frowned upon on HN...

You weren’t going to exercise your first amendment rights because the community frowns upon your second amendment rights...

It’s absolutely absurd that people feel afraid to talk about guns because a bunch of leftists hate everything our country stands for.

Good on you for talking about guns anyway.

Re: Ask HN: How are you preparing for COVID-19 disruptions?

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I wasn't going to talk about that because I think it'd be frowned upon on HN, but now that you mention it... I own a .22 long rifle and have tons of ammo. I've been thinking of getting a glock but haven't gotten around to it. It's not the best for self defense, but it's a heck of a lot better than no gun at all. It's ridiculously easy to shoot accurately. The ammo is cheap and ubiquitous, which is another advantage.…

> I wasn't going to talk about that because I think it'd be frowned upon on HN... You weren’t going to exercise your first amendment rights because the community frowns upon your second amendment rights... It’s absolutely absurd that people feel afraid to talk about guns because a bunch of leftists hate everything our country stands for. Good on you for talking about guns anyway.

Please. People talk about guns and slander leftists on HN all the time. Stop concern trolling.

Re: Ask HN: How are you preparing for COVID-19 disruptions?

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Do not overstock on masks or other supplies. Masks especially should be available to the sick. It's ironic that (I'm sure) someone out there will stock up on 10,000 masks and it will cause them to be in even greater danger because the sick people around them will have fewer masks. The CDC recommends that sick people wear masks to keep droplets in, and that people who directly interact with sick people wear masks whil…

2-3 weeks ago people on here were advocating stocking up on masks and selling at a high profit.

You could also try directly killing people for money if that's your thing.

Re: Ask HN: How are you preparing for COVID-19 disruptions?

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The dried food and MREs aren't bad. But they can be overkill, or too heavily relied upon. I guess it's a nice idea that there will always be a stockpile of food ready to go, but I figured out that I'd rather keep around some regular food that keeps well that I can slowly rotate through. Don't get me wrong, I think that ration food is great if you're going to be mobile. I keep dried ration meals inside a backpack for…

I have a fireplace, a gas furnace, and an electric grid connection, but only one of these is definitely functional at the moment. If I were to stock up on supplies, I would have to know my situation in the event stuff goes kerblooie. Do I have water? Is it hot? Does it seem clean but actually is full of bacteria? Often people recommend that you prepare for disasters by buying things that you will periodically use up,…

That's why I have extra camp stoves, propane cans, sternos, lighters, etc. If you're worried about contaminated water, you can either sanitize it with some bleach or use a water filter from a brand like Sawyer or Lifestraw. Or distill it.

> I really can't face eating the amount of spam that it would require to insure against a significant disaster, assuming there isn't one. Or peanut butter.

Hah! Admittedly, I usually go through more of the pasta, oatmeal, and rice over time than I do the other things like spam. However, I've got a can of spam here that has a "best by" date of 2025. It probably will last beyond that if the conditions are right. So let's think about this... Let's say you have 30 cans of spam, enough to have one every day for a month. If they last about 5 years on the shelf, that means you'd have to eat 1 can every other month if I understand the math correctly. Doesn't sound too bad to me! Of course this does mean keeping somewhat close track of what's closer to expiration.

> If I have water and the ability to cook, potatoes seem like pretty much the cheapest source of calories that won't quickly spoil as long as you keep them where it's dark and cool. I wonder why people don't recommend stocking up on them?

I don't know. I have no experience with storing potatoes, so I don't know how long they last on their own. That seems like a good idea on the face of it. Sorta off topic, I do know one guy who stealthily plants potatoes in the foothills and occasionally digs them up to eat, with the side motivation that they'd be supplemental survival food if need be. I don't know how practical that is, but that's kinda neat nonetheless.

Awesome username, btw.

Re: Ask HN: How are you preparing for COVID-19 disruptions?

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I live in HK, so we're already living through this.

I've basically been working remotely. I haven't used public transport since CNY. We do not go out at all, unless it is necessary.

The main concern is the mask shortage. We probably go through 4 masks a week, and we generally only go out twice a week right now strictly for the essentials. We will need to get more soon, or we will run out before April.

Maintaining a high standard of hygiene is something people tend to do already in HK, but it's more important than ever right now. We thoroughly clean our flat every Saturday morning and wash hands whenever handling something unhygienic or just in general. As the virus can spread through waste water systems, we flush out unpumped drains as well. When buying products, we only use e-payment to avoid loose change. Most places have gloves in addition to masks, and have hand sanitizer, so there's no excuse to not use these things.

HK does not have a large supply buffer due to the small spaces. If demand for a good spikes, places will run out quickly, and it generally takes 1-2 weeks for something to get back. So we also try to get as much as we need ahead of time, but space for storing lots of food here is limited.

Re: Ask HN: How are you preparing for COVID-19 disruptions?

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My father had the misfortune of being a civilian in Kuwait during the first gulf war. What I learned from his stories is that the line between normalcy and utter chaos is thinner than one would think. The war itself from the perspective of someone not actively participating is mostly boring (his words) - you can't really go outside, cable is down(no internet back then), not much is happening. But the brief transition…

Fat is actually one of the last things the body burns during starvation. Your muscles usually go first.

i've read that your earlobes are the first to go

Re: Ask HN: How are you preparing for COVID-19 disruptions?

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Yes, you're technically burning through your body's food supply when you fast. While that has survival implications, that's not really the point. The average American overeats like crazy and is addicted to junk food. Fasting helps to break that addiction so that you're more likely to use your crisis food wisely and not feel hunger pangs. When I tell people that I comfortably fast for 4 or more days, they think it's c…

You seem to think it's obvious that you last longer if you ration yourself rather than eat until the food is gone and then burn fat. That sounds reasonable, but I can't exactly think of a logical argument why. Why do you think it should be true?

You make a valid point. Overall, I look at fasting as a form of preparedness before a situation because it trains the body and mind to not crave to eat in excess. But, as you correctly pointed out, I was thinking of fasting as long as much as possible to try and limit digging into my food reserves. There may be strategy in saving body fat for later in a crisis. I'm not sure.

My line of thinking is that, early on in a crisis, I don't know how long a crisis is going to last or how intense the looting will be. It could be that a week goes by and all the store shelves are bare; although I'll have potentially put myself at risk by lowering my body fat, I'd still feel more secure having extra food for myself and perhaps someone else than having eaten most of it when I didn't need to and now there's no more food to go around. Having extra food around the point at which I may need to get out of Dodge seems preferable to me than to hit the road with only bodyfat and few to no provisions.

I don't think there's a good answer to that. You make a great point. I do still think fasting is a useful in helping people break food addictions and learn self control.

Re: Ask HN: How are you preparing for COVID-19 disruptions?

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The best way is to make an electrolyte drink yourself. Here's my recipe: - 2 Liters of water - 1/2 teaspoon of pink salt - 1 teaspoon of potassium chloride - 1/4 teaspoon of food grade epsom salt - Lemon and stevia used sparingly to taste It's not the best tasting thing ever, but you get used to it. Using filtered water will make it much more palatable. I think salts make poor tap water quality more obvious. You can…

One might think pedialyte was the best formulated option, but it tastes terrible in my opinion.

I've never had pedialyte, but I don't imagine it tastes better or worse than what I make. :)

Re: Ask HN: How are you preparing for COVID-19 disruptions?

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What fasting method do you practice? It sounds interesting!

This is a strange thread for me to suggest this, but check out the Zero Fasting app.

Heard of it but never tried it. Thanks for the suggestion!

Re: Ask HN: How are you preparing for COVID-19 disruptions?

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The same way withdrawing from a bank you expect to have a bank run soon does? This is what causes bank runs.

The difference is, a bank only has a certain amount of money, while a grocery store can turn over inventory on a daily or weekly basis. So if I stock up now before everyone else does, I can actually make less of an impact if and when there is an eventual need for everyone to prepare to stay home for a week.

Functionally the grocer has a limited supply also because there is only so much production/shipment capacity. I agree if you do it early enough your impact is minimal.

But if you withdraw early enough from a bank then the bank can in theory safely exit from its positions and become more liquid

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