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Re: Waymo’s Hiring Binge

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Post by vl »

mindvirus wrote: post #52
wpietri wrote: post #50

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Wow, that's clever. Also dangerous, of course. If I were at Google and had a direct report who was not up to snuff, I might point them at such a convenient option.

That's one way to look at it. The other is that it creates an internal market - as a manager, you have to make your team attractive or people will transfer away and people won't transfer to it.

In reality, market is not that liquid: interesting projects have no headcount, problematic projects are available. At the end of the day you need to know people and come with recommendations to actually transfer to something good. Ask me how I know.

Re: Waymo’s Hiring Binge

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Post by jeremysalwen »

bathtub365 wrote: post #39
bko wrote: post #38

This may seem like a stupid question, but why isn't there a company that just outsources driving to remote drivers? Imagine a car simulation in which someone in a low cost country sees what the driver in the car would see, including the surroundings (side mirrors, behind them, etc). She can look around, same way as someone in the car and that person can drive. And her actions gets sent to the car half way across the…

I would not get into a car driven by someone in a "low cost" country whose only incentive for not getting into an accident is getting fired.

No, they hire 3 drivers in "low cost" countries and the car controls respond to the majority vote, for built-in redundancy. If you buy the premium subscription it's 7 drivers instead.

Re: Waymo’s Hiring Binge

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Post by rainyMammoth »

steelframe wrote: post #64
wpietri wrote: post #50

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Wow, that's clever. Also dangerous, of course. If I were at Google and had a direct report who was not up to snuff, I might point them at such a convenient option.

Very, very few Googlers are "not up to snuff." As controversial as their interview process is, it does tend to let only highly capable people through. If a Googler is not meeting expectations, the vast majority of the time it's effectively remedied with the proverbial "new manager and 6 more months" treatment.

Disagree. I have worked at Google, other startups and middle sized companies. By far the least productive place per employee was Google. Not that the average employee was stupid but the average output per engineer was comically low. A lot of Googlers take it very easy there and work 10 to 5.

And to be more on point, I met definitely more than a couple subpar employee that would be fired after a couple months in a startup.

Re: Waymo’s Hiring Binge

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Post by rainyMammoth »

mdszy wrote: post #28
Quarrelsome wrote: post #13

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not as fun to say. Doesn't roll off the tongue.

I'm exactly 0% concerned about how "fun" it is to say who I'm employed with, but you do you I guess.

Come over join Waymo they said. It will be fun they said.

Re: Waymo’s Hiring Binge

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Post by rainyMammoth »

warent wrote: post #15
tudelo wrote: post #10

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also, noogler and n00b are some fun ones

Noogler is supposed to be silly/goofy, it's not cringe at all if it's self aware Disclaimer: used to be a noogler. I'm not mad at all!!1!

Seems to have achieved its goal on you.

Re: Waymo’s Hiring Binge

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Post by mallorypaine »

dilippkumar wrote: post #65
Lambdanaut wrote: post #43

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Quite a bold claim. Care to give reasoning?

A colleague explained it to me like this: "During a recession, all the big companies will tighten their budgets and not throw money to copy your products" They then pointed out that all the companies that took off in the 10s started during the 2008 recession. Look at what happened to Snapchat for an example of what happens when other companies have money to spend to catch up with your product quickly.

2008 was also when the iPhone SDK unleashed massive opportunity.

Re: Waymo’s Hiring Binge

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Post by username90 »

vl wrote: post #81
mindvirus wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's one way to look at it. The other is that it creates an internal market - as a manager, you have to make your team attractive or people will transfer away and people won't transfer to it.

In reality, market is not that liquid: interesting projects have no headcount, problematic projects are available. At the end of the day you need to know people and come with recommendations to actually transfer to something good. Ask me how I know.

You can do a 20% project for them even if they don't have headcount and managers can view your performance history so it is not hard to join an interesting project if you are good. Also if you are good enough they will add headcount to the team so you can join even if there weren't any before. Ask me how I know.

Re: Waymo’s Hiring Binge

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Post by vl »

username90 wrote: post #87
vl wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In reality, market is not that liquid: interesting projects have no headcount, problematic projects are available. At the end of the day you need to know people and come with recommendations to actually transfer to something good. Ask me how I know.

You can do a 20% project for them even if they don't have headcount and managers can view your performance history so it is not hard to join an interesting project if you are good. Also if you are good enough they will add headcount to the team so you can join even if there weren't any before. Ask me how I know.

You are just advancing my point. I agree with what you say, but my point is that what is taunted as egalitarian fair system - “once you are in, it’s easy to transfer, just click the Transfer button” in reality doesn’t work like this at all.

Re: Waymo’s Hiring Binge

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Post by KKKKkkkk1 »

vl wrote: post #81
mindvirus wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's one way to look at it. The other is that it creates an internal market - as a manager, you have to make your team attractive or people will transfer away and people won't transfer to it.

In reality, market is not that liquid: interesting projects have no headcount, problematic projects are available. At the end of the day you need to know people and come with recommendations to actually transfer to something good. Ask me how I know.

How do you know?
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