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Re: The ReiserFS Filesystem (2000)

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I have my roots in Germany and Italy where it’s pretty common to either have or know people who have “historically notorious” surnames, and therefore the whole idea of “burning names” never caught on (fortunately, I might add).

Except Hitler.

Hitler was a rare (maybe even unique?) name to begin with, being a spelling variation of "Hiedler" for unknown reasons: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alois_Hitler#Change_of_surname

Re: The ReiserFS Filesystem (2000)

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With the exception of adolf, hitler and other evil masterminds. To some degree typical mobbing-names could be also seen as burned.

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2F... They found people named "Bomb, war, Göbbels, Speer, Keitel, Heß, Bormann, Eichmann" to run for Parliament.

Yes, it's a parody. They got many heat and attention for it.

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I mean, I get it. I truly do, but part of me hates this idea of names being "burned". This name is a direct link to the person, and he should not be immortalised like that. But other cases (CockroachDB is one) I think people go overboard with getting offended at names. Names typically have power when we only associate them with a single thing. If we have many things with similar names then one of them being terrible,…

> But other cases (CockroachDB is one) I think people go overboard with getting offended at names. Like, because they’re repulsed by cockroaches?

Or people getting offended by GIMP.

Re: The ReiserFS Filesystem (2000)

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> But other cases (CockroachDB is one) And GIMP. Some people just work so hard to get offended by an acronym that happens to also be an almost-unknown slang, that they created a fork called Glimpse. That project declares that the name alone prevented adoption by thousands of companies and universities. If this is true, we should expect Glimpse adoption to skyrocket immediately.

> Some people just work so had to get offended by an acronym [...] That's nothing compared to German law: You won't see a single license plate there that has the numbers 18, 28 or 88 on it. Although numbers like 318 or 288 would be fine ...

Swedish license plates (currently in the form of "ABC 12E" are screened for 3-letter combos like "CIA", "KGB", "KKK" and of course "KUK". Such plates are not issued.

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https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2F... They found people named "Bomb, war, Göbbels, Speer, Keitel, Heß, Bormann, Eichmann" to run for Parliament.

Yes, it's a parody. They got many heat and attention for it.

Sure, but the names are real.

Re: The ReiserFS Filesystem (2000)

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I mean, I get it. I truly do, but part of me hates this idea of names being "burned". This name is a direct link to the person, and he should not be immortalised like that. But other cases (CockroachDB is one) I think people go overboard with getting offended at names. Names typically have power when we only associate them with a single thing. If we have many things with similar names then one of them being terrible,…

> But other cases (CockroachDB is one) And GIMP. Some people just work so hard to get offended by an acronym that happens to also be an almost-unknown slang, that they created a fork called Glimpse. That project declares that the name alone prevented adoption by thousands of companies and universities. If this is true, we should expect Glimpse adoption to skyrocket immediately.

This is an unfair expectation. Glimpse has taken off in my school however.

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I believe it is still in active development and they refuse to change the name for some odd reason. It’s like if kdenlive was named “Weinstein” wouldn’t you want to change it?

To be perfectly frank, there’s no getting around the fact that a convicted murderer designed this filesystem, so… I don’t really see why changing it would make much of a difference. I don’t really get the “burned names” thing; it verges on “cancel culture” (which, from my distant cultural remove, strikes me as rather insane). I carry a surname uncomfortably close to that of widely-known Nazi Reichsminister, and in bo…

Imo it should be burned. Not for everything but just for new versions of projects he himself worked on.

Imagine if Victoria from Victoria's secret turned out to be an axe murderer and they kept the business name.

The name is not the issue, but the the nameholder associated with it and the project.

Re: The ReiserFS Filesystem (2000)

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I mean, I get it. I truly do, but part of me hates this idea of names being "burned". This name is a direct link to the person, and he should not be immortalised like that. But other cases (CockroachDB is one) I think people go overboard with getting offended at names. Names typically have power when we only associate them with a single thing. If we have many things with similar names then one of them being terrible,…

> But other cases (CockroachDB is one) I think people go overboard with getting offended at names. But with this name there is a 0.1% chance in any enterprise setting that managers would accept usage of such a DB. At least as long as it's not as mainstream as maybe Redis or MongoDB. (If something is popular enough, the name is to be accepted)

I don't meant to be rude but from what I have seen, american people seem highly influenced by their corporates to remain "clean" without personality or quirkiness that isn't approved. I have seen this leak into many critics (may be biased due to the population size) where they sometimes expect a hobby project to have professional naming on some really arbitrary principles that are specific to them. Just odd to me or find a product unappealing to the name not sounding "clean".

Cockroachdb sounds really intriguing to me, enough that I checked their website and read a few posts. First thought that came to mind when hearing it was that the db might have something to do based on resilience and replication like a cockroach.

Re: The ReiserFS Filesystem (2000)

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I mean, I get it. I truly do, but part of me hates this idea of names being "burned". This name is a direct link to the person, and he should not be immortalised like that. But other cases (CockroachDB is one) I think people go overboard with getting offended at names. Names typically have power when we only associate them with a single thing. If we have many things with similar names then one of them being terrible,…

> But other cases (CockroachDB is one) And GIMP. Some people just work so hard to get offended by an acronym that happens to also be an almost-unknown slang, that they created a fork called Glimpse. That project declares that the name alone prevented adoption by thousands of companies and universities. If this is true, we should expect Glimpse adoption to skyrocket immediately.

> that happens to also be an almost-unknown slang

Perhaps where you live.

Where I do, it's easily the most common slur for people with physical disabilities, and it's considered very offensive. I do consciously avoid using or talking about GIMP at the office, using it only when I'm working from home instead, specifically to avoid offending coworkers. This isn't me working hard at getting offended; it's me putting a minimum of effort into not upsetting my colleagues.

The folks who run GIMP are absolutely free to keep the name. But I think it would only be mature of them, and fans of the software, too, to be understanding of how others will perceive it, and not get defensive about the name adversely impacting the app's popularity.

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