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Re: The ReiserFS Filesystem (2000)

#11

Post by SilasX »

qubex wrote: post #10
dijit wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean, I get it. I truly do, but part of me hates this idea of names being "burned". This name is a direct link to the person, and he should not be immortalised like that. But other cases (CockroachDB is one) I think people go overboard with getting offended at names. Names typically have power when we only associate them with a single thing. If we have many things with similar names then one of them being terrible,…

I have my roots in Germany and Italy where it’s pretty common to either have or know people who have “historically notorious” surnames, and therefore the whole idea of “burning names” never caught on (fortunately, I might add).

Except Hitler.

Re: The ReiserFS Filesystem (2000)

#12

Post by lvturner »

blablabla123 wrote: post #9
dijit wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean, I get it. I truly do, but part of me hates this idea of names being "burned". This name is a direct link to the person, and he should not be immortalised like that. But other cases (CockroachDB is one) I think people go overboard with getting offended at names. Names typically have power when we only associate them with a single thing. If we have many things with similar names then one of them being terrible,…

> But other cases (CockroachDB is one) I think people go overboard with getting offended at names. But with this name there is a 0.1% chance in any enterprise setting that managers would accept usage of such a DB. At least as long as it's not as mainstream as maybe Redis or MongoDB. (If something is popular enough, the name is to be accepted)

I mean, MongoDB has a pretty unfortunate name depending on where you are from...

https://www.dictionary.com/e/slang/mongo/

Didn't seem to get in it's way too much.

Re: The ReiserFS Filesystem (2000)

#13

Post by slightwinder »

qubex wrote: post #10
dijit wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean, I get it. I truly do, but part of me hates this idea of names being "burned". This name is a direct link to the person, and he should not be immortalised like that. But other cases (CockroachDB is one) I think people go overboard with getting offended at names. Names typically have power when we only associate them with a single thing. If we have many things with similar names then one of them being terrible,…

I have my roots in Germany and Italy where it’s pretty common to either have or know people who have “historically notorious” surnames, and therefore the whole idea of “burning names” never caught on (fortunately, I might add).

With the exception of adolf, hitler and other evil masterminds. To some degree typical mobbing-names could be also seen as burned.

Re: The ReiserFS Filesystem (2000)

#14

Post by Tomte »

slightwinder wrote: post #13
qubex wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have my roots in Germany and Italy where it’s pretty common to either have or know people who have “historically notorious” surnames, and therefore the whole idea of “burning names” never caught on (fortunately, I might add).

With the exception of adolf, hitler and other evil masterminds. To some degree typical mobbing-names could be also seen as burned.

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2F...

They found people named "Bomb, war, Göbbels, Speer, Keitel, Heß, Bormann, Eichmann" to run for Parliament.

Re: The ReiserFS Filesystem (2000)

#15

Post by dspillett »

blablabla123 wrote: post #9
dijit wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean, I get it. I truly do, but part of me hates this idea of names being "burned". This name is a direct link to the person, and he should not be immortalised like that. But other cases (CockroachDB is one) I think people go overboard with getting offended at names. Names typically have power when we only associate them with a single thing. If we have many things with similar names then one of them being terrible,…

> But other cases (CockroachDB is one) I think people go overboard with getting offended at names. But with this name there is a 0.1% chance in any enterprise setting that managers would accept usage of such a DB. At least as long as it's not as mainstream as maybe Redis or MongoDB. (If something is popular enough, the name is to be accepted)

This is why the paid version of "Agent Ransack" is instead called "File Locator Pro".

If I ever get around to releasing any of my own little projects they will have deliberately slightly offensive names to take advantage of this as a user filtering property. If at some point I want the difficult & demanding sort of user who is going to take issue with a project name, I can rename at that time. (of course if a project is intended to be breadwinner that may be a poor strategy!).

Re: The ReiserFS Filesystem (2000)

#16

Post by gaius_baltar »

dijit wrote: post #4
flatiron wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I believe it is still in active development and they refuse to change the name for some odd reason. It’s like if kdenlive was named “Weinstein” wouldn’t you want to change it?

I mean, I get it. I truly do, but part of me hates this idea of names being "burned". This name is a direct link to the person, and he should not be immortalised like that. But other cases (CockroachDB is one) I think people go overboard with getting offended at names. Names typically have power when we only associate them with a single thing. If we have many things with similar names then one of them being terrible,…

> But other cases (CockroachDB is one)

And GIMP. Some people just work so hard to get offended by an acronym that happens to also be an almost-unknown slang, that they created a fork called Glimpse.

That project declares that the name alone prevented adoption by thousands of companies and universities. If this is true, we should expect Glimpse adoption to skyrocket immediately.

Re: The ReiserFS Filesystem (2000)

#17

Post by [deleted] »

dijit wrote: post #4
flatiron wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I believe it is still in active development and they refuse to change the name for some odd reason. It’s like if kdenlive was named “Weinstein” wouldn’t you want to change it?

I mean, I get it. I truly do, but part of me hates this idea of names being "burned". This name is a direct link to the person, and he should not be immortalised like that. But other cases (CockroachDB is one) I think people go overboard with getting offended at names. Names typically have power when we only associate them with a single thing. If we have many things with similar names then one of them being terrible,…

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Re: The ReiserFS Filesystem (2000)

#18

Post by [deleted] »

flatiron wrote: post #3
qubex wrote: post #2

I was a big fan of ReiserFS “back in the day”. While many are no doubt aware of the trial and conviction for his wife’s murder, I find that almost nobody is aware that a successor (Reiser4) was also in development: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reiser4

I believe it is still in active development and they refuse to change the name for some odd reason. It’s like if kdenlive was named “Weinstein” wouldn’t you want to change it?

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Re: The ReiserFS Filesystem (2000)

#19

Post by dspillett »

flatiron wrote: post #3
qubex wrote: post #2

I was a big fan of ReiserFS “back in the day”. While many are no doubt aware of the trial and conviction for his wife’s murder, I find that almost nobody is aware that a successor (Reiser4) was also in development: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reiser4

I believe it is still in active development and they refuse to change the name for some odd reason. It’s like if kdenlive was named “Weinstein” wouldn’t you want to change it?

> like if kdenlive was named “Weinstein”

At this point though, how many people know the name for that reason? Even at the time, the case hardly had the public notoriety that the Weinstein case has now.

> refuse to change the name for some odd reason

Changing the name could be detrimental as it could be mistaken for a new and relatively untested filesystem rather than one that has a long history.

Re: The ReiserFS Filesystem (2000)

#20

Post by numlock86 »

gaius_baltar wrote: post #16
dijit wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean, I get it. I truly do, but part of me hates this idea of names being "burned". This name is a direct link to the person, and he should not be immortalised like that. But other cases (CockroachDB is one) I think people go overboard with getting offended at names. Names typically have power when we only associate them with a single thing. If we have many things with similar names then one of them being terrible,…

> But other cases (CockroachDB is one) And GIMP. Some people just work so hard to get offended by an acronym that happens to also be an almost-unknown slang, that they created a fork called Glimpse. That project declares that the name alone prevented adoption by thousands of companies and universities. If this is true, we should expect Glimpse adoption to skyrocket immediately.

> Some people just work so had to get offended by an acronym [...]

That's nothing compared to German law: You won't see a single license plate there that has the numbers 18, 28 or 88 on it. Although numbers like 318 or 288 would be fine ...

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