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Re: Where Sci-Hub Is

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Post by rndgermandude »

Cenk wrote: post #146
Vinnl wrote: post #135

Hi all, I made this. I just received a notice from Zeit that they blocked it: > I am writing to let you know we have blocked your deployment: whereisscihub.now.sh > This is because the deployment contained illegal content. > Please let me know if this is not the case or if you have any questions. I hadn't noticed it was on Hacker News, but that explains the sudden attention. While I don't believe the site was illegal…

Something similar happened to me ( https://twitter.com/Citationsy/status/1156626811398307840 ) when I posted a link to Sci-Hub on my blog. In the EU it’s apparently copyright infringement to link to copyright infringing URLs. I ended up removing the links because I didn’t want get into more legal trouble with Elsevier. More details here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20606362

It's a bit more complicated and a result of: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-eu-playboy-copyright/play...

Basically, if you post a link and know it links to illegal content, you are in violation of copyright law. If you do not know, you're not in violation, but upon being informed, you do know and have to take down the link.

In case of Sci-Hub, it would be reasonable to assume somebody who made a website with the purpose to link to the ever-changing Sci-Hub domain, that is ever changing because of copyright takedowns, then I'd think a court would find it reasonable for you to know you're linking to something violating somebody else's copyrights and thus are in violation of copyright law yourself, in EU jurisdictions at least.

Re: Where Sci-Hub Is

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Post by yupyup54133 »

anonymfus wrote: post #103
dragonsh wrote: post #18

I am of the opinion knowledge should be free and easily accessible. Research papers through sci-hub only helps to make knowledge easily accessible. Humanity's progress depends on people who shared their knowledge, not by people who use it as a tool to rule and hold on to power. It will be nicer if whole sci-hub is able to move to IPFS network and accessible through a domain. The problem is IPFS do not offer anonymity…

> It will be nicer if whole sci-hub is able to move to IPFS network and accessible through a domain. I think you have an misconception about how sci-hub works. Most of the content you can access trough sci-hub is not hosted by sci-hub, what happens when you request a fresh new paper is that your request is eventually served by a computer in the network of one of the universities with subscription to the journal which…

Sounds like a perfect use-case for skynet: https://blog.sia.tech/skynet-bdf0209d6d34

Re: Where Sci-Hub Is

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Post by pirate_dev »

Vinnl wrote: post #135

Hi all, I made this. I just received a notice from Zeit that they blocked it: > I am writing to let you know we have blocked your deployment: whereisscihub.now.sh > This is because the deployment contained illegal content. > Please let me know if this is not the case or if you have any questions. I hadn't noticed it was on Hacker News, but that explains the sudden attention. While I don't believe the site was illegal…

What you did is not illegal at all, but the law doesn't really matter anymore, so I guess you have fallen into the "pissing off powerful interests" category, which is just as bad as doing illegal stuff. You should consider putting this up as an onion at the least, is quite helpful for some of us. Kudos:)

Re: Where Sci-Hub Is

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Post by Blaisorblade0 »

eyegor wrote: post #143
dagenix wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It takes work to produce human knowledge. Writing a book, creating educational materials, and writing research all takes time, just like it takes time to build a house. My understanding is that most / all articles in academic journals are written by researchers who are not paid by the journal. Then, the articles are peer reviewed by another set of researchers - who are also not paid by the journal. Then, those same…

Your basic assessment is correct, however, you're forgetting a key detail. Every journal I know of also charges the author a fee to submit papers. So the author pays to submit their work, volunteers review it, the author does corrections, and then it might get published behind a pay wall. For any university research, the work itself is paid for mostly via government and private company grants.

That sounds weird; all journals I know are paid either by readers or by the submitter (the latter is called gold open access).

Re: Where Sci-Hub Is

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Post by [deleted] »

ggrrhh_ta wrote: post #115
czzr wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hmm... so you get nothing for it, you do all the work and yet you continue to do it? I presume you must be getting something out of the arrangement, else why on earth do you continue?

As many of us doing research, writing, reviewing, typesetting, checking proofs, organizing their dissemination conferences, administrative tasks, filling up IP forms, returning them, getting them checked by attorneys paid on our side, etc., etc., etc., do not get absolutely anything remotely in value to the price it costs to our institutions or peers to access our work. We force ourselves though to do something so il…

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Re: Where Sci-Hub Is

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Post by unityByFreedom »

enriquto wrote: post #132
unityByFreedom wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Information is infinite Published material is not infinite, nor is an author's time. Information is infinite if you definite it to mean all information, but that is not the context here. The context here is published work.

Man, you are obnoxious. Do you understand that we authors of these damn papers get fuckall from their publication? The publication industry is an extortion racket.

I said above I understand the hatred for academic journals. This thread is about whether all knowledge by otherwise uncompensated creators should be available for free.

Re: Where Sci-Hub Is

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Post by unityByFreedom »

rndgermandude wrote: post #128
unityByFreedom wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The research is already funded differently Yes, I understand the hatred for academic publishers b/c they don't fund the research. The comment above said 'knowledge should be free' and that is what I was responding to.

If my tax payer money helped fund the research, I better get access to it. Similarly, if my tuition money helped fund it, then I better get access to it as well. Or even, if my actual time helped fund the research (e.g. I am a student involved in the research) then I better get access to it, too. Sounds fair? The vast majority of academic research is funded at least in part by tax payers either directly (grants, publ…

> If my tax payer money helped fund the research, I better get access to it.

I agree, I don't know why you think I don't. I said I understand why people don't like academic journals.

Re: Where Sci-Hub Is

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Post by pergadad »

unityByFreedom wrote: post #118
ggrrhh_ta wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As many of us doing research, writing, reviewing, typesetting, checking proofs, organizing their dissemination conferences, administrative tasks, filling up IP forms, returning them, getting them checked by attorneys paid on our side, etc., etc., etc., do not get absolutely anything remotely in value to the price it costs to our institutions or peers to access our work. We force ourselves though to do something so il…

> things are slowly changing, as people & institutions with the right amount of power and leadership are starting to take action. Where exactly, what people and institutions?

See eg the various initiatives against Elsevier's pricing practices with all/most German universities and a number of American universities refusing to pay Elsevier's fee/ransom.

Similarly the whole 'open access'publishing movement which sadly has been somewhat coopted by the big publishers.

Re: Where Sci-Hub Is

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Post by pergadad »

shpx wrote: post #39
LeoPanthera wrote: post #9

The Wikipedia article is also kept reasonably up to date with the URLs: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sci-Hub They used to have a .onion address, which I assumed would continue to be the most reliable way in, but it's been down for a long time. I'm surprised, it seems like Tor would be the best way to remain up and accessible.

DNS-over-Wikipedia is my goto strategy for websites like this (Scihub, Libgen, Piratebay, Popcorn Time, etc.).

What do you mean by this?
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