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Re: Nissan Leaf

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So can html5 continually ping a variable (say a time point) while a video is playing, including other variables back to a third party server (if the video content was embeded via a jsonp wisget etc.) ??

Sure. ...where "sendXHR()" is a five- to ten-line wrapper around XMLHttpRequest.

Indeed. So now browsers can finally start to do what Flash can do. This argument is only recently valid then.

Re: Nissan Leaf

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So can html5 continually ping a variable (say a time point) while a video is playing, including other variables back to a third party server (if the video content was embeded via a jsonp wisget etc.) ??

Sure. ...where "sendXHR()" is a five- to ten-line wrapper around XMLHttpRequest.

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Re: Nissan Leaf

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Oh whatever. I can see it on me iPad. And iPhone. And Android. Who uses a fucking computer these days anyway? Programmers? ;-)

Well, you can see it but you can't really use it. It's brutally unresponsive and you can't scroll the text popups. Kind of a waste to dodge Flash and ignore the biggest reason to do so.

Wait now, hold on a minute. I thought people have been saying that Flash on the Android was horribly slow.

Re: Nissan Leaf

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Don't mistake "visitors" for "customers". I'm guessing that you mean 40% of visitors to sites (not the one for the Nissan Leaf) use IE. (Or more specifically IE 6.) I think it's probably a pretty safe bet that folks who are visiting the Nissan Leaf site, and ESPECIALLY folks who would be early adopters and buy an all-electric car, are probably also not rolling around using IE6. (At least, I'd hope not.) Conversely, s…

Really? Think crypto-communist ploy-sci professor using their ancient office machine. EV fans come in many stripes.

Yeah, I forgot how big that market is. My bad.

Seriously though, if you were building this site, I'd suggest you'd probably worry a lot more about how it looks on an iPad than a WinXP box running IE6.

The site I work on doesn't even cater to early-adopters the way the Nissan site should, and we have lots more iPad / iPhone / Android traffic than IE6 these days. (And I mean each individually, not in aggregate.)

Re: Nissan Leaf

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How exactly are Flash and JavaScript different? I don't see the separate niches you envision these technologies occupying for the rest of their existence. And how can you say JavaScript "will never" kill Flash? Aren't Apple and JavaScript already hurting Flash's market share? Doesn't every major browser release leave less and less that Flash alone can do? Aren't we looking at an example of a major, mainstream brand a…

So can html5 continually ping a variable (say a time point) while a video is playing, including other variables back to a third party server (if the video content was embeded via a jsonp wisget etc.) ??

Hixie answered your specific question, but I think you're missing a very important point: "Doesn't every major browser release leave less and less that Flash alone can do?" There are some things (not this one) that Flash can do that browsers aren't yet able to do. The present limitations dictate what you can do today, but they have little relevance to the long-term discussion.

Re: Nissan Leaf

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Only because it's more efficient to sell a brand than it is to sell quality.

Actually... (heh) The brand is the quality. Branding is just reminding you of the quality.

tell that to people that bought mercedes-benz made in mexico in the late 90's... or i could waste my day here writting example after example

anyway i doubt the comercials for MB then were pointing out the quality of the engine instead of being just empty branding marketing.

Re: Nissan Leaf

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Actually... (heh) The brand is the quality. Branding is just reminding you of the quality.

tell that to people that bought mercedes-benz made in mexico in the late 90's... or i could waste my day here writting example after example anyway i doubt the comercials for MB then were pointing out the quality of the engine instead of being just empty branding marketing.

I think you're cleanly sidestepping the point I'm trying to make, which is that consumer's definitions of quality is quite arbitrary. Given two vehicles of equal finishing, engine power, engineering, consumers will pick the one with a stronger brand, the one that has more sex appeal. That is a quality.

Re: Nissan Leaf

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"Someone" might be Adobe: http://tv.adobe.com/watch/adc-presents/preview-of-the-edge-p...

I think it would be a dream for adobe, to be able to discharge themselves of maintaining their player on multiple architectures on browser makers.

Agreed. Adobe doesn't make much money off of the Flash Player, just the Flash IDE, so they'd be thrilled if they could offload Flash Player's functionality and the horrible reputation it gives them and just focus on creating a good IDE.

Re: Nissan Leaf

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I'm a little worried about losing what is to me one of the main advantages of Flash: that it can be blocked. So your all singing, all dancing website shuts the hell up and behaves like a sedate page full of text and static images. I mean, I can block JS, but it's irritating to have to. That's generally used for useful things like navigation. Flash marks something up as useless pizazz.

Very interesting point here. Maybe Adobe's next ad campaign will feature this idea: Flash is better because you can turn it off. In fact, if you turn it off, you remove 99% of all truly annoying ads on the web. Thinking ahead, maybe we need a ClickToJS...

We have one, it's called NoScript.
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