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Assange offered pardon if he co-operated over email leak, UK court hears

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Re: Assange offered pardon if he co-operated over email leak, UK court hears

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Post by einpoklum »

rtkwe wrote: post #35
fit2rule wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

DNC wouldn't know. US Intelligence community wouldn't know. Only Assange knows where he got the data. Why is it so easy for you to trust entities that were not involved in the leak so easily, yet disregard Assange's own agency over knowing/understanding where he got the data? Is it because you maybe just don't like Assange as a person? I mean, not vetting documents is one thing. But, actively engaging in election int…

They can definitely examine the access logs, method of intrusion, etc to determine who actually took the information from the servers... They're not 100% incompetent. I think Assange isn't particularly careful or picky about what he releases and by extension particular inclined to thoroughly examine who's giving him that info. Additionally from all appearances he scheduled and coordinated (at the very least indicated…

They can't examine anything, because AFAIK the servers were physically destroyed before official US authorities got to them. They relied on CrowdStrike's analysis.

Re: Assange offered pardon if he co-operated over email leak, UK court hears

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Post by einpoklum »

Traster wrote: post #40
ryanlol wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Isn't the whole the struggles and fiascos are about the suspect of him doing rape or not? Nope, those charges were dropped.

Is it the case that some of those charges passed the statute of limitations while Assange was hiding in the Ecuadorian embassy? I think "charges were dropped" is putting it a bit strongly.

No and yes. Assange was never formally charged with a crime, but allegations were made against him. Officially, Sweden wanted him extradited to be investigated (although, of course, he offered to be investigated in the Ecuadorian embassy due to his being persecuted in the UK).

Re: Assange offered pardon if he co-operated over email leak, UK court hears

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ryanlol wrote: post #41
Traster wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is it the case that some of those charges passed the statute of limitations while Assange was hiding in the Ecuadorian embassy? I think "charges were dropped" is putting it a bit strongly.

AFAICT Sweden refused to interview and indict Assange as long as he remained in the embassy. If that’s true then IMO “charges were dropped” isn’t putting it a bit strongly. Also AFAIK Swedish prosecutors wanted to drop these charges in 2013 , but the UK prosecutors dissuaded them from doing do. Besides, not all of the Swedish charges hit statute of limitations.

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Re: Assange offered pardon if he co-operated over email leak, UK court hears

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Post by doe88 »

sschueller wrote: post #2

This makes no sense. Julian already stated that Russia had nothing to do with the DNC leaks. From wikipedia [1]: On December 9, 2016, the CIA told U.S. legislators that the U.S. Intelligence Community concluded Russia conducted operations during the 2016 U.S. election to prevent Hillary Clinton[11] from winning the presidency.[12] Multiple U.S intelligence agencies concluded people with direct ties to the Kremlin gav…

It's quid-pro-quo all over again, whether true or not, it didn't matter, there were only interested by a public statement from Assange.

Re: Assange offered pardon if he co-operated over email leak, UK court hears

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Post by belorn »

_bxg1 wrote: post #25

The level of brazen corruption this administration has been getting away with is absolutely staggering. At least when Nixon did it people had the decency to be upset. There's not even a pretense of integrity any more; this is the new normal. Our democracy is crumbling.

Spanning three different democratic nations, in every single step involving the case of assange there has been brazen corruption, praxis violations, legal violations, and through most of it the information has been leaked to the public with minimum consequences to those responsible.

I am starting to come to the conclusion that the anomaly is the Nixon case. It is one of the rare cases where those responsible did get some punishment.

Re: Assange offered pardon if he co-operated over email leak, UK court hears

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Post by dangoor »

einpoklum wrote: post #68
ccaleb wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Direct quote from Mueller Report: "GRU officers used both the DCLeaks and Guccifer 2.0 personas to communicate with WikiLeaks through Twitter private messaging and through encrypted channels, including possibly through WikiLeaks's private communication system.”

Mueller claimed this was the case, but - his report, as released to the public, did not present evidence to establish these claims (nor, in fact, most claims in the report regarding Russian interference). Also, "including possibly through Wikileaks" means nothing. "Including possibly through my second cousin's DIY basement mail server."

There was an indictment: https://www.justice.gov/file/1080281/download

I don’t know if there was further evidence not made public to protect sources and methods.

Re: Assange offered pardon if he co-operated over email leak, UK court hears

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Post by ASalazarMX »

falcolas wrote: post #12

Seems perfectly reasonable. Torture, err, solitary confinement. Interrogate, err, coerce statement, err, offer a pardon in exchange for the statement they want to hear, err, for a truthful and honest statement. Imply that the torture, err, solitary confinement will continue if the honest statement is not made. Yup, all perfectly reasonable. /s

You mean the enhanced interrogation for notable individuals? I hear it strengthens your lungs and keeps your skin hydrated, enhances your wakefulness, and provides abundant time for meditation.

Re: Assange offered pardon if he co-operated over email leak, UK court hears

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Post by favorited »

derision wrote: post #22
sjg007 wrote: post #6

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His source may not have been Russia but that source may have gotten them from Russia.

The theory I've heard is Seth Rich stole the emails via USB and sent them to WikiLeaks after the nomination was stolen from Bernie in 2016 and he recognized the corruption inside the DNC. Reports from the investigation into the hack suggest the data transfer rate matches USB transfer speeds. Seth Rich was later murdered in what was deemed a robbery, but neither his wallet nor watch were removed from his body

> after the nomination was stolen from Bernie in 2016

I personally helped steal it, by casting one of the 3.7 million votes Hillary had over Bernie.

Re: Assange offered pardon if he co-operated over email leak, UK court hears

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Post by booboolayla »

ccaleb wrote: post #60
booboolayla wrote: post #13

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Assange hinted that Seth Rich was their source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Seth_Rich#WikiLeaks_... Combine that with Bill Binney's analysis that proves the data couldn't have possibly been downloaded over the internet but rather shipped on a USB: https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiLeaks/comments/becdyc/nsa_whist...

The Seth Rich thing has been widely debunked multiple times (as I said, and provided evidence for in another comment). The Fox article pushing this has been debunked. Fox is being sued by the family. There is no evidence for this theory.

You couldn't possibly provide any evidence because none of the evidence ever reached the public. DNC never allowed FBI to investigate the servers, so all "evidence" you have are claims originating from CrowdStrike, a private company on DNC's payroll known for lies and manipulation.
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