Isn't the whole the struggles and fiascos are about the suspect of him doing rape or not? How could the totally unrelated email leaks be the reason to grant a pardon?
This world is more rotten than you can ever imagine.
Assange offered pardon if he co-operated over email leak, UK court hears
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#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
His source may not have been Russia but that source may have gotten them from Russia.
The theory I've heard is Seth Rich stole the emails via USB and sent them to WikiLeaks after the nomination was stolen from Bernie in 2016 and he recognized the corruption inside the DNC. Reports from the investigation into the hack suggest the data transfer rate matches USB transfer speeds. Seth Rich was later murdered in what was deemed a robbery, but neither his wallet nor watch were removed from his body
Is there any evidence suggesting this Seth Rich story is believable? There's certainly ample evidence suggesting it is not. The (FOX) article that peddled this story has been retracted and Seth Rich's family is suing the network over it.
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#33The level of brazen corruption this administration has been getting away with is absolutely staggering. At least when Nixon did it people had the decency to be upset. There's not even a pretense of integrity any more; this is the new normal. Our democracy is crumbling.
I see it as a signal to noise ratio. Back during Nixon times, the traditional media had a captive audience. There are many more forms of media today spread out among many narrow niches. People get lost in their own worlds
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#34Isn't the whole the struggles and fiascos are about the suspect of him doing rape or not? How could the totally unrelated email leaks be the reason to grant a pardon? This world is more rotten than you can ever imagine.
> Isn't the whole the struggles and fiascos are about the suspect of him doing rape or not?
Nope, those charges were dropped.
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#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
Where did I say I can't fathom that situation for starters? From all indications from the DNC to the US Intelligence community it wasn't someone inside the DNC so absent any information from Assange/Wikileaks I have no reason to believe it's anyone else. Also we know from the War files that Wikileaks doesn't go through the documents provided to remove things like personal names to protect locals who did simple things…
DNC wouldn't know. US Intelligence community wouldn't know. Only Assange knows where he got the data. Why is it so easy for you to trust entities that were not involved in the leak so easily, yet disregard Assange's own agency over knowing/understanding where he got the data? Is it because you maybe just don't like Assange as a person? I mean, not vetting documents is one thing. But, actively engaging in election int…
They can definitely examine the access logs, method of intrusion, etc to determine who actually took the information from the servers... They're not 100% incompetent.
I think Assange isn't particularly careful or picky about what he releases and by extension particular inclined to thoroughly examine who's giving him that info. Additionally from all appearances he scheduled and coordinated (at the very least indicated he had something) to affect the US election.
As for my feelings about the various TLAs in the US they're mixed but I definitely think they're more likely to be able to tell who was actually involved than Assange.
[0] Wikileaks isn't a huge organization with massive investigatory prowess and resources, it wouldn't be terribly hard to believably fake non-association for a nation state.
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#36This makes no sense. Julian already stated that Russia had nothing to do with the DNC leaks. From wikipedia [1]: On December 9, 2016, the CIA told U.S. legislators that the U.S. Intelligence Community concluded Russia conducted operations during the 2016 U.S. election to prevent Hillary Clinton[11] from winning the presidency.[12] Multiple U.S intelligence agencies concluded people with direct ties to the Kremlin gav…
>Julian already stated that Russia had nothing to do with the DNC leaks.
That's wrong, and is spreading misinformation:
- Julian Assange said that his source was not Russian Intelligence.
- Julian Assange did not say that the hacks were not Russian.
It's well known in the cybersecurity industry that the DNC email hacks performed by Guccifer 2.0 were Russian GRU.
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#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
The theory I've heard is Seth Rich stole the emails via USB and sent them to WikiLeaks after the nomination was stolen from Bernie in 2016 and he recognized the corruption inside the DNC. Reports from the investigation into the hack suggest the data transfer rate matches USB transfer speeds. Seth Rich was later murdered in what was deemed a robbery, but neither his wallet nor watch were removed from his body
Is there any evidence suggesting this Seth Rich story is believable? There's certainly ample evidence suggesting it is not. The (FOX) article that peddled this story has been retracted and Seth Rich's family is suing the network over it.
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#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think the anti-Assange/anti-Trump clan are trying to get ahead of this story and positioning it as if it were another quid pro quo situation, which is insidious and duplicitous to say the least - because actually there are a lot of political hacks who are headed for deep embarrassment if Assange can demonstrate that, indeed, Russia was not behind the DNC leak which embarrassed Clinton and 'cost her the election'. T…
In what world is this not a quid pro quo and political extortion of Assange? The president should not be involved and withholding a pardon to squeeze out political favors is not acceptable in any form.
Lol. “Withholding a pardon” likes it’s an entitlement and not granting it indicates corruption...
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#39Isn't the whole the struggles and fiascos are about the suspect of him doing rape or not? How could the totally unrelated email leaks be the reason to grant a pardon? This world is more rotten than you can ever imagine.
That case was in sweden, and dropped by the swedish prosecutor.
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#40Isn't the whole the struggles and fiascos are about the suspect of him doing rape or not? How could the totally unrelated email leaks be the reason to grant a pardon? This world is more rotten than you can ever imagine.
> Isn't the whole the struggles and fiascos are about the suspect of him doing rape or not? Nope, those charges were dropped.
Is it the case that some of those charges passed the statute of limitations while Assange was hiding in the Ecuadorian embassy? I think "charges were dropped" is putting it a bit strongly.