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I paid $12 for my .dev domain. I bought it from Google.
Domain names are not one time purchases? Secondly are you referring to monthly or yearly? They sometimes do flash deals which might be why you got it for one year at that price (assuming you paid that yearly). But the discounts usually don't last forever.
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In Handshake, rather than renting your domain from .org or .com, you own your tld. This means that nobody will be able to charge you for using your own name. No more rent seeking or getting taxed by a pseudo government of the internet.
> In Handshake, rather than renting your domain from .org or .com, you own your tld. Given the conversation we had on https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22312014 , I think this claim is leaving out a lot of information. Handshake is not optimized for ordinary people to buy TLDs the same way they buy .com domains. - There's no market information I can find about what a TLD will cost on average. - Purchasing a TLD wi…
My view is that maturity of the project will bring some of the answers everyone is looking for.
As an anecdote, the first name auctions are actually ending in the next 48h.
Mean bids for early names (a few hundred) from the last time I looked in a cli were under 10 HNS, so under 5 USD at current prices. .coin for low thousands of USD. .11 for low hundreds of USD.
So that may give you a bit of an early view of what the prices are looking like. All subject to change of course because the auctions are not done yet.
For what it's worth, as someone enthusiastic about Handshake, crypto, and decentralized systems in general...I can totally empathize with the irritation you've expressed here. There's so much noise out there and 2017-2018 blockchain projects are notorious for over-promising on vague and impossible things, and then fading to nothing when the impossible things turn out to actually be impossible.
One thing I'd like to emphasize: Handshake's community may be what ends up being the differentiator against ICANN, less so anything financial or crypto related. I think that is what Rasengan is trying to accomplish here: build a true grassroots effort to work together to make Handshake a real contender. Because many of the readers here already have a piece of the network (majority of the coin supply being given not to investors, but Foss developers).
The simple notion that skilled, knowledgeable, opinionated, and generative individuals can have an outsized impact when raising concerns like this can be very powerful. Because it's an open network, many, many things are malleable, even economics/pricing/miner influence.
Decentralization has it's trade-offs. As Steve Waldman likes to say: "it's powerful at the edges, where Hayekian information flows can cover the blindspots of centralized efficiency".
https://www.interfluidity.com/uploads/2019/02/tao-of-decentr...
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.dev is available for public registration... I have one.
Ah, how quickly the Internet forgets. .dev wasn’t going to be open for the rest of us originally; Google bought it as an internal name to keep private but relented a few years later. > The web ad giant is keeping these domains "completely closed for the sole use of Google," as its paperwork filed[0] for .dev reads. > Why not also share the wealth of .dev with developers? Well, in a word: branding. Google's successful…
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In Handshake, rather than renting your domain from .org or .com, you own your tld. This means that nobody will be able to charge you for using your own name. No more rent seeking or getting taxed by a pseudo government of the internet.
> In Handshake, rather than renting your domain from .org or .com, you own your tld. Given the conversation we had on https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22312014 , I think this claim is leaving out a lot of information. Handshake is not optimized for ordinary people to buy TLDs the same way they buy .com domains. - There's no market information I can find about what a TLD will cost on average. - Purchasing a TLD wi…
1. I want a project like Handshake to be successful as well, and I agree it has a long way to go - the trade-offs are numerous, high-magnitue, and (sadly) opaque.
But also, 2. Having seen first-hand how these things take shape over long periods of time (the second decade of Bitcoin's existence is just getting started), Handshake needs help, is designed to be flexible, and you can help. In fact, I'd argue you already are helping, and in ways the average crypto-native community member trumpeting blind-eyed optimism - is not. :)
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> We need an alternative to all this centralized control, and we need it now. The Handshake Naming System [1] provides a decentralized option, works directly with the existing legacy system so there will be 0 difficulty in the transition, and it’s usable right now [2]! Just install hsd [3] and point your resolution to localhost to join the movement to an internet owned by the people. [1] https://handshake.org [2] htt…
Welp, then I hope the effort and associated protocol takes off, and is successful in providing us a little liberty from these centralizos (a plural term I've started using for referring to "centralization bozos").
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I'm pretty sure there's more than one alternative.
I've heard of handshake...but were you referring to something else? If so, please share, I'm genuinely curious.
But I would be surprised if the whole of the tech world can only think of two possible ways of managing it.
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Ah, how quickly the Internet forgets. .dev wasn’t going to be open for the rest of us originally; Google bought it as an internal name to keep private but relented a few years later. > The web ad giant is keeping these domains "completely closed for the sole use of Google," as its paperwork filed[0] for .dev reads. > Why not also share the wealth of .dev with developers? Well, in a word: branding. Google's successful…
Sure, but google shouldn't be able to get a generic gTLD like this. Why is google's interest in owning "dev" more valuable than everyone else's?
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AT&T as well. I still need to put aside a Sunday to figure out how to passthrough their fiber modem/router combo and use my own equipment again.
I think I read somewhere that one option is to simply use a different dns provider, but I have not validated this. I, too, need to put aside a day to play with this.
If this sale is successfully prevented, the next step needs to be to identify and purge ISOC and ICANN of anyone who negotiated or advocated for this deal. Not just because of the corruption issue, but the pure lack of good judgment. I keep thinking about the fact that first, ICANN was freed of it's tie to the US government, and since then, it's been business deal after business deal to corrupt the domain system.
We shouldn't be surprised. The whole TLD debacle has been a bit cash grab, which hasn't been beneficial to anyone but a few. Take the subsequent acquired domain of ".dev" by Google for instance, which then reserved it for internal usage only.
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Welp, then I hope the effort and associated protocol takes off, and is successful in providing us a little liberty from these centralizos (a plural term I've started using for referring to "centralization bozos").
Haha, I like "cBozos" personally, or "cozos".