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Indian police open case against hundreds in Kashmir for using VPN

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Re: Indian police open case against hundreds in Kashmir for using VPN

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Who is "we"? This is how democracy works, and those rural voters have a say in what happens. This country would crumble within months without all those flyover states contributing to the nation.

If by "works" you mean "Results in the election of Donald Trump as President," then, yeah, it "works," I suppose.

What I mean is that you have to accept what the will of people, expressed by the system, votes into power - even if you don't like it.

Re: Indian police open case against hundreds in Kashmir for using VPN

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This is going to sound antiquated and tedious, so please bear with me. Rather than using a VPN/Tor/etc. which can be easily detected or requires a lot of OpSec to get right, consider having people in other countries that can help bundle archives of data for you. Ship the data back and forth over something non conspicuous and not subject to MITM proxies such as SFTP to AWS or one of the low-rent VPS providers. Use a r…

ssh could be used for proxy, so it might be marked as a VPN by ISP hardware. Better way would be to use something very popular like Gmail or Google Drive. I hope that chances are small for Google to co-operate with Indian government.

One of the reasons I suggest SFTP is that contractors in India are very often asked to transfer data to US and EU companies this way. It is often required for contractors to do their job. You can disable port forwarding on the SFTP server in the event that government officials want to verify it is not a proxy. If the VPS used is AWS, it is even less conspicuous. The admins of the account for the VM must be outside of India. The server can even contain work related files to make it legit.

This process is predicated on the idea that you want to get the word out about things occurring in your country and that you do not need to take credit for it.

Re: Indian police open case against hundreds in Kashmir for using VPN

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I am in Jammu(India) right now and can attest that comments like above are only opinions and not facts. As goes for any country, people keep inventing stuff / leaving crucial details because of their own biases and self interests. The same goes for people who support BJP.

Facts are facts. If a government is doing something and evidence shows that, then it is a fact, not an opinion.

yes and here is the Actual News from the same article ----------- The FIR has been registered while taking cognisance of the social media posts by miscreants by using different VPNs, which are propagating rumours with regard to the current security scenario in the Kashmir valley, secessionist ideology and glorifying terrorists, the police said.

Re: Indian police open case against hundreds in Kashmir for using VPN

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We have yet to see how the US reacts when a massive section of it wants to secede. India and China both face a significantly more difficult geopolitical reality than the USA. Some of the world's most westernized and developed countries (Spain, Israel) are starting to use violence and suppressive tactics now that they are faced with even the smallest amount of secessionist unrest. Kashmir is one of the most militarize…

We have yet to see how the US reacts when a massive section of it wants to secede. We have? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Civil_War

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Re: Indian police open case against hundreds in Kashmir for using VPN

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The majority of the population has blind faith in BJP. The only demographic that appears to realise the implications well enough is the youth in urban areas - a very insignificant fraction of the nation's population. Sounds all too familiar here in the US. We are effectively held hostage by rural voters, and the obvious remedy for this state of affairs -- abolishing the Electoral College -- will mean that those voter…

We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22360928.

Re: Indian police open case against hundreds in Kashmir for using VPN

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Again, this is just your opinion. You are no different from the so called die hard BJP fans. You just take the opposite stand. Your methods are same.

I asked you to be more specific and you've dismissed it as "just my opinion". It's impossible to respond to that. Good day.

You have edited your reply now and erased the stuff you said about BJP.

Re: Indian police open case against hundreds in Kashmir for using VPN

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> They've banned VPNs. They'll chuck you in prison if you speak against the government or a politician. Thank you for sharing this information. How were you, in your comment above, able to safely criticise the government while in India? (If you are not able to disclose how you did, that's understandable to me. We all know about methods like Tor and obfs4 bridges. I run a Tor bridge to help people in China, hopefully.…

HTTPS, and a throwaway account that cannot be linked to me. I live in an urban area where the internet isn't very restricted (other than DNS-level blocks for porn and piracy sites). The same is not there for the people in Kashmir, who have had very little (and severely restricted) access to the internet in the past eight months or so.

Stay safe! BJP or rather RSS is a Nazism driven platform and, like seen in any other country in recent years, people fell for the bait of 'development' and guerilla marketing from bigots of their major religion.

This is extremely sad and I am hoping things will correct before everything worsens further.

> Many people are upset, but there's nothing we can do.

I remember people (not to point to anyone in particular but generally) even the educated ones making fun of a new engineer politician on the rise. There was news about slapping the newbie on their roadshows and rallies where this politician was trying to connect personally with the people.

What do you think of that?

For someone like me with an outside-in view I feel that we have a 'karma problem' with the general citizenry of India. Not to come off as a prude American (this is also true now for my own country as well-–Trump nation) but democracy is so much like a mirror––and in the end we all get what we deserve.

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For Americans, this is identical to when Sen. Joseph McCarthy was branding people "Unamerican". The BJP have succeeded in establishing their brand of hatred and stupidity as the only valid form of patriotism.

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I'm not sure what communists wanted to do that. Care to shed some light?

Re: Indian police open case against hundreds in Kashmir for using VPN

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As a young tech person in India, this stuff makes me so angry. The ruling party here (BJP) doesn't have any real competition. Which means they can get away with pretty much anything. They've banned VPNs. They'll chuck you in prison if you speak against the government or a politician. Then they'll brand you as an "anti-nationalist" and openly say to their supporters that you deserve to be shot. Facial recognition is n…

This is just absurd. India has strong judicial system and no one, not even PM can abuse his power. This commenter has blind hatred against BJP. India is the country where you have freedom to criticize. To verify you can just search internet and YouTube. Regarding identify protestors, I think commenter is referring to recent protest where some people burned public property, who were identified through CCTVs and made them pay for the damage, which was right thing to do.

Re: Indian police open case against hundreds in Kashmir for using VPN

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The majority of the population has blind faith in BJP. The only demographic that appears to realise the implications well enough is the youth in urban areas - a very insignificant fraction of the nation's population. Sounds all too familiar here in the US. We are effectively held hostage by rural voters, and the obvious remedy for this state of affairs -- abolishing the Electoral College -- will mean that those voter…

Who is "we"? This is how democracy works, and those rural voters have a say in what happens. This country would crumble within months without all those flyover states contributing to the nation.

Excellent, I expect these rural Kashmiri voters will be able to elect their MLAs real soon now
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