Anyone know which agency did this?
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Nissan Leaf
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Re: Nissan Leaf
#142Its still just as annoying even though its not done in flash...
Re: Nissan Leaf
#143A lot of grandiose claims in hopes of the death of Flash around here. As though Flash has never done anything good for anyone. I agree that it's nice that the browsers are now supporting new features that allow so much well needed functionality across the board - but they're really just now catching up to what Flash has offered us for years. Forget all-flash websites. Seriously, forget them. I like the OP's site abou…
> Where would Youtube be without Flash?
> To disregard Flash's place in that history doesn't make any sense.
Nobody is saying that Flash wasn't worthwhile, ever. It's just nice that something that used to be a large part of the web can be taken out of the hands of a company, and returned to us all.
> But these claims that Flash is somehow the bane of the internet is to deny some of the very foundations of how successful the internet has become.
Ehhhh I'd disagree. I certainly agree that until very recently (and not quite yet for everyone), Flash is no longer needed, and that that's a good thing. Flash is a threat to the Internet: it's in the hands of Adobe. The web should be open, and for everyone. But that's precisely _because_ the internet has become so successful. It's far too important to be left under corporate control.
Re: Nissan Leaf
#144One should note that if you pull the site up in IE it still uses flash, which means we still need flash. Unless you're willing to say goodbye to 40% of your customers.
Graceful degradation / progressive enhancement anyone? (Btw, Raphaël supports IE6 too.)
Someone wrote a flash -> Raphael library a while ago.
Or maybe it was just regular SVG manipulation, I can't find the exact project unfortunately.
Re: Nissan Leaf
#145Why would a manager at Nissan allow this to be built? They now have to maintain two parallel versions of their complex site. What is the non-ideological payoff?
That manager must have spotted that there's a vocal minority on the interwebs, who will be blown away by one of the versions and drum up interest to their page at a marginal cost of 0 dollars.
I wouldn't have visited Nissan's web page today, or any time soon. But I did, Nissan owes that guy a nice bonus.
Re: Nissan Leaf
#146One should note that if you pull the site up in IE it still uses flash, which means we still need flash. Unless you're willing to say goodbye to 40% of your customers.
Oh whatever. I can see it on me iPad. And iPhone. And Android. Who uses a fucking computer these days anyway? Programmers? ;-)
Well, you can see it but you can't really use it. It's brutally unresponsive and you can't scroll the text popups. Kind of a waste to dodge Flash and ignore the biggest reason to do so.
Re: Nissan Leaf
#147One should note that if you pull the site up in IE it still uses flash, which means we still need flash. Unless you're willing to say goodbye to 40% of your customers.
Oh whatever. I can see it on me iPad. And iPhone. And Android. Who uses a fucking computer these days anyway? Programmers? ;-)
It kinda creaks along on my iPad. For one thing, the site doesn't seem to be nearly as nice about making you wait for buffering video.
Re: Nissan Leaf
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Oh whatever. I can see it on me iPad. And iPhone. And Android. Who uses a fucking computer these days anyway? Programmers? ;-)
Well, you can see it but you can't really use it. It's brutally unresponsive and you can't scroll the text popups. Kind of a waste to dodge Flash and ignore the biggest reason to do so.
You can scroll the text on the iPad with the buttons. :(
Re: Nissan Leaf
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The thought of Apple killing flash just about makes me sick. I really don't want to be forced into paying the 50-100 percent Apple premium for hardware just because they managed to "kill" a technology everyone decided to hate for no reason.
The _reason_ everyone decided to kill Flash, is because it, combined with pdf reading, is responsible for the majority of browser crashes. The push here is to eliminate an unnecessary layer from the web stack. And I would point out that while apple has taken the steps to rid flash from their mobile platforms, they aren't leading the charge per say, they are just a very large player in this space. Finally, just becaus…
Safari sort of runs on windows. But that sort of is a stretch.
Re: Nissan Leaf
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Derp. There are many applications that I cannot run on my computer because my computer isn't an apple. All of these could have been written in flash, and thus been cross-platform. Apple doesn't like flash, because they want people tied to their platform. (Obviously, I'm not talking about plain javascript here, though.) One of these days, a "must have" killer app is going to come around--that could have been written i…
What killer app is only available in Flash?
grooveshark.