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Re: Nissan Leaf

#101
post #55

One should note that if you pull the site up in IE it still uses flash, which means we still need flash. Unless you're willing to say goodbye to 40% of your customers.

Depending on the genre of said website, it's unfortunately more likely to be > 60% - Shame, but true

Re: Nissan Leaf

#102
post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How exactly are Flash and JavaScript different? I don't see the separate niches you envision these technologies occupying for the rest of their existence. And how can you say JavaScript "will never" kill Flash? Aren't Apple and JavaScript already hurting Flash's market share? Doesn't every major browser release leave less and less that Flash alone can do? Aren't we looking at an example of a major, mainstream brand a…

So can html5 continually ping a variable (say a time point) while a video is playing, including other variables back to a third party server (if the video content was embeded via a jsonp wisget etc.) ??

Sure.

...where "sendXHR()" is a five- to ten-line wrapper around XMLHttpRequest.

Re: Nissan Leaf

#103
post #55

One should note that if you pull the site up in IE it still uses flash, which means we still need flash. Unless you're willing to say goodbye to 40% of your customers.

our 2 biggest customer sites are still closer to the 80% IE mark. sorry to say, but some sectors are still hopelessly dependant on browser plugins :(

Re: Nissan Leaf

#104
post #55

One should note that if you pull the site up in IE it still uses flash, which means we still need flash. Unless you're willing to say goodbye to 40% of your customers.

IE8 here at work. There's no Flash from what I can see. Am I missing something? Or are you referring to IE6/7?

Re: Nissan Leaf

#105
Unless there’s a vector-based action game running at a decent frame rate hidden somewhere on that site, I don’t think you’ve adequately proven your statement.

Re: Nissan Leaf

#106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How exactly are Flash and JavaScript different? I don't see the separate niches you envision these technologies occupying for the rest of their existence. And how can you say JavaScript "will never" kill Flash? Aren't Apple and JavaScript already hurting Flash's market share? Doesn't every major browser release leave less and less that Flash alone can do? Aren't we looking at an example of a major, mainstream brand a…

The thought of Apple killing flash just about makes me sick. I really don't want to be forced into paying the 50-100 percent Apple premium for hardware just because they managed to "kill" a technology everyone decided to hate for no reason.

wait, what?

First, I don't own a single apple product. Thinking back, I don't think I ever have. When I worked at Yahoo they gave me a macbook, and I traded it with one of the Indians when he visited (Yahoo india got HP laptops which run linux, and were kinda okay copies of the thinkpad T series. My boss was okay with it, but Yahoo India made us trade back the next time the guy came to America.)

I'm a linux guy; I don't use flash. Security hazard, you know, if you compromise my workstation, it's damn hard for me to stop you from compromising the systems I admin.

but you know what? that website? works great on chrome in Linux.

Me, I don't like apple any more than you do. I like it less, most likely. I'm extremely unlikely to buy any of their hardware (if nothing else, the macbook keyboards and trackpads just feel /wrong/ somehow. I mean, it's just preference, but they just do not work for me. I've been using ThinkPads with the little eraser head pointers for well over half my life. Not switching now.)

But we can all cheer for the death of flash, that is, if you can do everything you can do in flash with something more open and less buggy.

Re: Nissan Leaf

#107
post #55

One should note that if you pull the site up in IE it still uses flash, which means we still need flash. Unless you're willing to say goodbye to 40% of your customers.

Works great for me in Safari 5, and I've deleted the Flash plugin. Must be graceful degradation, yay for proper design!

Re: Nissan Leaf

#108

I don't understand how we've gone from "Flash is crap for entire websites" (edit: which is almost always true) to "Flash is the devil in every situation". It has its place, Javascript will never and shouldn't try and "kill" Flash, they're different.

Actionscript is an ECMAScript dialect.

Re: Nissan Leaf

#109
post #55

One should note that if you pull the site up in IE it still uses flash, which means we still need flash. Unless you're willing to say goodbye to 40% of your customers.

I use ClickToFlash on a Mac and I saw a flash box for a second and then it disappeared and glorious HTML5 replaced it.

So it looks like it will use Flash if you have it.

Re: Nissan Leaf

#110
post #6

Well it appears that at least the linked site does need flash. If you click on features and specifications the embedded video is flash (firefox 3.6) So not quite true.

I assumed it was a element that Firefox wouldn't render because it used H.264 video, but no... it's an ordinary Flash video. How odd.

It seemed to play without Flash in Chrome 10.0.648.82 on Linux.
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