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Post by hadlock »

KozmoNau7 wrote: post #202
hadlock wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reddit is the flavor of the month. It's been a long month, but before Reddit there was digg, kuro5hin, plastic, something awful, slashdot. Myspace was the flavor of the month. Now it is facebook/imgur/snapchat. But before it was friendster, AIM, MSN, ICQ etc. Maybe next it will be Discord or Son Of Discord. The wheel continues to turn. I have zero faith Reddit will command the market share it does today, in 2030.

Something Awful still exists and is still very active, last time I checked.

Yeah and in 10 years both forums will still exist. Something Awful exists and is active, but it's not in the cultural driver's seat the way it was in 2004-2009. But then Reddit (some claim, Twitter) came along and ate their lunch and they've been in the back seat for many many years with slow to no user growth.

Re: "This community is available in the app"

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Post by Lammy »

acdha wrote: post #145
fredgrott wrote: post #130

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Its an interesting design problem ie UX. If I force log-ins or abusive pop-ups I end up making the problem worse. What Reddit needs is a very creative UX solution. Something of value that gets presented in the app but is not inthe mobile-web version delivered via browser. Some app interaction rather than some extra content. Something interactive that is exclusive to the mobile app. Not something big interaction wise…

It’s abusive to tell people they need an app to get access to something when there’s no technical reason for the requirement. Everyone knows the real reason is better ad targeting / data resale but that’s not something a user should care about – users aren’t your shareholders and there are plenty of formerly big companies which spent too much time on things which didn’t benefit their users. If you’re thinking UX, the…

Please don't devalue the term "abusive" by using it to refer to UI dark patterns.

Re: "This community is available in the app"

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Post by WWLink »

acdha wrote: post #145
fredgrott wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its an interesting design problem ie UX. If I force log-ins or abusive pop-ups I end up making the problem worse. What Reddit needs is a very creative UX solution. Something of value that gets presented in the app but is not inthe mobile-web version delivered via browser. Some app interaction rather than some extra content. Something interactive that is exclusive to the mobile app. Not something big interaction wise…

It’s abusive to tell people they need an app to get access to something when there’s no technical reason for the requirement. Everyone knows the real reason is better ad targeting / data resale but that’s not something a user should care about – users aren’t your shareholders and there are plenty of formerly big companies which spent too much time on things which didn’t benefit their users. If you’re thinking UX, the…

Oh but dude! They need the analytics to tell them how you're using the app. So they can see how you're touching the screen. What things you pause on. What notifications you might be getting meanwhile. What other apps are on your phone. Ya know. To get to know ya better. ;)

Re: "This community is available in the app"

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Post by Lammy »

deanclatworthy wrote: post #62
fireattack wrote: post #9

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Reddit is one of a few websites that I feel dedicated app works much better than browser, but I use 3rd party one(s).

I also use a third party app. AlienBlue is superb and more feature rich and user friendly than the official app. Let’s enjoy it while it lasts. I suspect one day the API will be monetised (forced to display ads inline in the feed) or paid for (pricing out third parties) or entirely removed.

AlienBlue is the official app, just frozen in time in 2014.

Re: "This community is available in the app"

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Post by thewhitetulip »

inerg wrote: post #172
thewhitetulip wrote: post #161

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When all an app needs to do is connect to a website and cache a few images why does it need microphone access? Also if it has 100s of dialogs popping up users get a fatigue. They tend to say yes to everything and that's how default Android permissions are

I don't have the app installed but I'm assuming you can record video in it to post on Reddit? If that's the case I can see why it requires access to the microphone. That's the only way I could look at justifying it.

True. But why need all permissions upfront?

Security model should be automated. Request only when needed

Can't see why it needs all permissions upfront. Apps keep nagging u until we provide all permissions.

90% of my reddit usage is posting amd reading text. 10% is photo related. So browser is better for me.

I don't need an app to have all access when I upload photos once a month

Re: "This community is available in the app"

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Post by marcodave »

terminaljunkid wrote: post #131
willberman wrote: post #51

Instagram only allows you to see a portion of a user's photos before forcing you to login. It does this on both mobile and browser. I'm not a big application design junkey, but it's behavior like this that makes me appreciate the simplicity of hacker news. A few standard concepts implemented in their most basic form. No changes in the name of more user engagement. I understand that Reddit and Instagram's primary moti…

Instagram UX is horrible in my opinion. For anyone who knows to, say rename a file, Instagram UI / UX appear worst of class. You can't find many settings. Stories are horrible design made for few use cases, Captions appear like comments etc.. etc.. They didn't even have a functioning dark mode till Android provided one. But it continues to be popular. Arguably young people are stupid. I mean most people of my age use…

anything for having hot babes in the daily feed and hoping to have a glimpse of your schoolmate/crush in bikini

Re: "This community is available in the app"

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Post by JimDabell »

dreamcompiler wrote: post #200
andybak wrote: post #111

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Neither can an app without the relevant permissions. Which of those things can the official Reddit app do currently? If you're saying "the Reddit app will slowly change to do bad things" then say that and don't imply it already does those things.

Even if the user has fine-grained control over these things, the app can just refuse to run until they're granted. I don't know if the reddit app does so, but many do. This is why users need control over the internal API layer of their phones so they can feed spoofed data to apps.

> Even if the user has fine-grained control over these things, the app can just refuse to run until they're granted. I don't know if the reddit app does so, but many do.

Perhaps this is the case on Android, but this is explicitly forbidden by Apple:

> (iv) Access Apps must respect the user’s permission settings and not attempt to manipulate, trick, or force people to consent to unnecessary data access. For example, apps that include the ability to post photos to a social network must not also require microphone access before allowing the user to upload photos. Where possible, provide alternative solutions for users who don’t grant consent. For example, if a user declines to share Location, offer the ability to manually enter an address.

https://developer.apple.com/app-store/review/guidelines/#dat...

Re: "This community is available in the app"

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Post by ric2b »

lultimouomo wrote: post #191
thaumaturgy wrote: post #30

Reddit has been a/b testing behavior like this for months. Multiple different popups with variations on "view this in the app"; in some cases the popup is on every single page load, sometimes only once. They started blurring images on select subreddits with a message that you could only view the sub in their app. Okay, I know they're chasing one of two things here: a higher level of revenue from the advertising they…

With the app you are basically deanonimized (e.g. if you use the Facebook app on that phone they can link your accounts), so they can either sell more targeted and valuable ads, or straight up sell your data.

But I'm already logged in...
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