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Re: "This community is available in the app"

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Post by andybak »

codedokode wrote: post #110
thewhitetulip wrote: post #84

I gave up on read Quora when they forced logins I will give up on reddit if they do the same. Isn't visits a valid criteria? Why force a mobile app?

A website cannot silently read a phone number and list of nearby WiFi access points for geolocation, scan local drive for interesting files, show annoying notifications every hour to return user back to the app.

Neither can an app without the relevant permissions.

Which of those things can the official Reddit app do currently?

If you're saying "the Reddit app will slowly change to do bad things" then say that and don't imply it already does those things.

Re: "This community is available in the app"

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Post by Nextgrid »

GlitchMr wrote: post #83
themagician wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My parents fall prey to a new Facebook scam every couple weeks. I can’t even keep up with it anymore. Scam isn’t even the right word. More like “scheme”. Everything from anti-aging pills to travel clubs to worse. Between this garbage and the fake news nonsense Facebook is an absolute disease at this point. Honestly, someone should start a campaign to ask Mark Zuckerberg to just delete it. Cash out and delete it for t…

Mark Zuckerberg cannot do this. He could sell his shares and leave Facebook, but it would still work. Your best bet about shutting down Facebook is government action or useds leaving Facebook. Either of those seems almost impossible however, and keep in mind Facebook has money to purchase its competitors if useds start moving to them.

We just need regulation. If Facebook advertising is used to promote a scam then Facebook should be considered complicit for the crime and punished.

The market will do the rest. Facebook doesn’t want to be fined so will force all ads to be reviewed & approved manually. This costs money so in turn the price of the ads will go up. Legitimate brands will still be able to afford it, the rest will disappear. Overall there would be less “noise” in the ads compared to the “signal” (the very few good ads).

Re: "This community is available in the app"

#113

Post by hadlock »

sillysaurusx wrote: post #45
blhack wrote: post #23

What a strange thing to be this user hostile. When stuff like this happens, people look for alternatives, and even if they don’t switch immediately, this really erodes any loyalty they have to your brand/service. I think Facebook is experiencing a similar thing. A frustrating amount of my network has quit, which makes planning events more difficult (and is frustrating). The difference for Facebook is that they have e…

An alternative to Reddit? It's a monopoly. Where are you going to go? Voat? They can be as horrible to their users as they want. As long as they have cat pictures on the front page, nobody cares enough to change anything. I think we're all getting exactly what is deserved by collectively allowing a monopoly to form. (I'm not suggesting there should be legal action. I'm saying, by the laws of exponential curves and po…

Reddit is the flavor of the month. It's been a long month, but before Reddit there was digg, kuro5hin, plastic, something awful, slashdot.

Myspace was the flavor of the month. Now it is facebook/imgur/snapchat. But before it was friendster, AIM, MSN, ICQ etc. Maybe next it will be Discord or Son Of Discord.

The wheel continues to turn. I have zero faith Reddit will command the market share it does today, in 2030.

Re: "This community is available in the app"

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Post by whatsmyusername »

thaumaturgy wrote: post #30

Reddit has been a/b testing behavior like this for months. Multiple different popups with variations on "view this in the app"; in some cases the popup is on every single page load, sometimes only once. They started blurring images on select subreddits with a message that you could only view the sub in their app. Okay, I know they're chasing one of two things here: a higher level of revenue from the advertising they…

The app was also garbage when I used it.

Re: "This community is available in the app"

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Post by viklove »

pferde wrote: post #86
viklove wrote: post #35

This is why I started developing an alternative to Reddit a few years ago. It was clear from their leadership that they would continue to move towards satisfying their newly acquired VCs (for example Tencent), and do so by selling out their users in every way possible. Platforms like Reddit do not care about giving their users the best possible experience, and that is no longer the basis of the decisions they make. T…

Looks good so far. A suggestion, though - if you really can't make the site work at least a little bit with javascript disabled, at least have a basic landing/about page display for js-less browsers. Simply put - give me a reason to consider unblocking your site, dangle the carrot in front of me.

Yeah that's a fair point, thanks for the feedback!

Re: "This community is available in the app"

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Post by MaxBarraclough »

hadlock wrote: post #113
sillysaurusx wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

An alternative to Reddit? It's a monopoly. Where are you going to go? Voat? They can be as horrible to their users as they want. As long as they have cat pictures on the front page, nobody cares enough to change anything. I think we're all getting exactly what is deserved by collectively allowing a monopoly to form. (I'm not suggesting there should be legal action. I'm saying, by the laws of exponential curves and po…

Reddit is the flavor of the month. It's been a long month, but before Reddit there was digg, kuro5hin, plastic, something awful, slashdot. Myspace was the flavor of the month. Now it is facebook/imgur/snapchat. But before it was friendster, AIM, MSN, ICQ etc. Maybe next it will be Discord or Son Of Discord. The wheel continues to turn. I have zero faith Reddit will command the market share it does today, in 2030.

I wouldn't say reddit replaced Slashdot, any more than it's replaced Hacker News.

Slashdot really only competes with a dozen or so subreddits, after all, not with reddit as a whole.

Re: "This community is available in the app"

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Post by MrPatan »

sneak wrote: post #38
holler wrote: post #4

Whenever Reddit, or any other website, tells me to install their app, I make sure that I never install their app. In fact other than maybe 5 or less apps, I only use a browser.

The problem is that you and I are in the minority on this. Most people install the app, and all the tracking and data collection and geolocation that comes with it. Soon, almost all mass media will be consumed this way. This is just the latest installment of the mounting assault on the free and open web. Mark my words: the web is in danger.

> The web is in danger.

In a way yes.

In another way you can always trust people to be stupid and greedy and poison the commons: Every day you'll see more and more stories about apps that get taken over by/sold to malicious actors that then infect your device with the latest virus/ads/ransomware.

People don't care if their private data is sold all over the world, that's clear by now, but people will care, cry and shout really loudly when they get infected by ransomware that holds their grandkids pictures hostage.

It will happen, and the vector will always be a rogue app. Welcome back to the web!

Re: "This community is available in the app"

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Post by dkdk8283 »

blhack wrote: post #23

What a strange thing to be this user hostile. When stuff like this happens, people look for alternatives, and even if they don’t switch immediately, this really erodes any loyalty they have to your brand/service. I think Facebook is experiencing a similar thing. A frustrating amount of my network has quit, which makes planning events more difficult (and is frustrating). The difference for Facebook is that they have e…

I left Reddit years ago due to the “community” getting weird, I feel some schadenfreude every time I see people complain about the site.

I think it will be an interesting case. Reddit seems more entrenched than Digg and the internet is different now. They obviously have metrics affirming their choices, so we’re probably in the minority with this mindset.

All kinds of shitty companies regularly force us to accept bullshit like this and Im afraid this is now status quo. It seems younger people generally accept it because the need for content is stronger than that of due diligence, a naive mistake en masse.

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