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Google cuts jobs at cloud-computing group

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Is this a sign Google is not going to compete in Cloud anymore? Can't see how this is not going hurt customer confidence.

It's a basic reorganization of a trivial amount of jobs for a trillion dollar company.

No it's not a sign that they're going to stop competing in one of the most profitable sectors that they've had an offering in for over a decade.

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Nothing is happening to Google Cloud overall. This is just a small org where two teams were doing similar stuff, so they got merged. This made a few roles redundant, so those folks will be looking for new roles within Google (Cloud). How this made for a WSJ headline, IDK. I couldn't read the whole article because paywall, but the first few lines do mention that it's a tiny number of employees affected and they can lo…

I think I figured it out. It was announced in the earnings call. So my guess it was a signal to investors that they are stream-ling Google Cloud for some reason. I am not sure why that is a specific concern except to say they are competitive to investors. My guess is that Azure and AWS loom in investors minds for some reason.

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#103

WSJ has gone hard Murdoch, particularly against Google. In conjunction with comments by Peter Thiel, Trump, and other conservative commentators, it's pretty clear there's a coordinated effort to cast Facebook as a "fair and balanced" face, and to do that, they need a libtard heel, and Google is apparently it. What's interesting is that Trump easily has more of a beef with Bezos as the owner of the Washington Post, bu…

The WSJ has never been a Trump supporter.

Re: Google cuts jobs at cloud-computing group

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Yes.

Your conclusion is based on?

Like I said, it's double-digit billions product line and has a 10+ year history. And internal metrics show lots of profit margin comparable to AWS, although you'll have to find someone to share that with you in person.

Re: Google cuts jobs at cloud-computing group

#105

Is this a sign Google is not going to compete in Cloud anymore? Can't see how this is not going hurt customer confidence.

It's a basic reorganization of a trivial amount of jobs for a trillion dollar company. No it's not a sign that they're going to stop competing in one of the most profitable sectors that they've had an offering in for over a decade.

What I am worrying now is that Cloud is supposedly a fast growing sector they should double down on investing.

This doesn't look to me as a hyper growth focus trajectory TBH

Re: Google cuts jobs at cloud-computing group

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if it was extremely profitable it would be a separate line in their financial statements (rather than being aggregated with other things) it isn't, so draw from that what you will

Google earnings report shows Google Cloud and Youtube revenue for the first time: https://techcrunch.com/2020/02/03/alphabet-earnings-show-goo...

And it is still estimated that Youtube is barely profitable between what it pays creators and bandwidth costs.

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I've personally been through this twice at Google. The company definitely provides a very attentive set of resources to help you find a new position within the company, but I've always been able to find a new project on my own. That said, the more flexibility you have the easier it is to find a new position. This naturally favors some people over others. In my most recent case, it ended up being a bit more challengin…

So... Like... What do you do in the interim? Not work, look for teams, and still get paid a shit ton of money? Do you do some training on the side? Work on a side project? How long does it take to find the new team?

Keep in mind this is going to screw your performance rating / bonus / promotion situation. You’re incentivized to love fast.

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Your conclusion is based on?

Like I said, it's double-digit billions product line and has a 10+ year history. And internal metrics show lots of profit margin comparable to AWS, although you'll have to find someone to share that with you in person.

So either you have private information (that hopefully you wouldn’t be sharing on HN) or you can provide a public link?

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Cloud computing is already extremely profitable, and well above their 10-figure line for a sustainable project. AppEngine has been around for more than a decade. GCP might not catch up to AWS but it's not going away.

Snapchat was (is?) built on AppEngine and they signed a 5 year 3 billion dollar contract with GCP. I wouldn't be surprised if AppEngine is hanging by a thread outside of a few large users as GCP devs have on multiple occasions signaled new projects with the intention of replacing AppEngine (I forget which ones, feel free to verify that anecdote yourself).

AppEngine is just one product in Google Cloud, and the first they released in 2008. Of course there will be new versions and eventually new products that are recommended like VMs, GKE, Cloud Functions, Cloud Run, and more.

It's still supported and has plenty of usage so I don't see it as "hanging by a thread" unless you have more data than things that people said but apparently you forgot?

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This is a very smart tactic that also, as a side effect, brings the average quality across all engineers at the company up. Smart people with desirable skills would have no problem finding another team within Google to transfer to, while bottom tier performers won’t, thus leaving Google.

It'd be interesting to study. My intuition is that over the long term it'd cut in the opposite direction--smart people will move on while bottom tier will linger as long as possible.

Smart is the wrong word - more like savvy googlers usually have an internal network and know what teams are hot. They move on quickly.
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