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Re: Google cuts jobs at cloud-computing group

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Post by wyclif »

sdenton4 wrote: post #58
onlyrealcuzzo wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So... Like... What do you do in the interim? Not work, look for teams, and still get paid a shit ton of money? Do you do some training on the side? Work on a side project? How long does it take to find the new team?

From the couple people I know who have done this, I think it's pretty choose-your-own-adventure... Get paid to look for your new job, with very few actual responsibilities. It's worthwhile to compare this relative downtime to ramp-up time for new hires... who also generally spend a couple-few months being fairly useless (though working hard at it). And googlers being googlers, there's a decent chance that the 'down'…

So...it's kind of like being Big Head working at Hooli? Hanging out on the roof, or building potato guns and piezoelectric sensors?

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Post by XCSme »

petilon wrote: post #55

Google generated $8.9 billion in cloud sales last year, up 52.7% from $5.8 billion in 2018 and $4.1 billion the year prior. Doesn't sound like Google's cloud business is in trouble.

Well, it does if their operating and depreciation costs are a lot more than that (which I don't think they are though).

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Post by scarface74 »

manigandham wrote: post #60
scarface74 wrote: post #54

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Given Google’s penchant for cancelling projects and their inability to do anything profitably outside of advertising?

Cloud computing is already extremely profitable, and well above their 10-figure line for a sustainable project. AppEngine has been around for more than a decade. GCP might not catch up to AWS but it's not going away.

Is it profitable for Google?

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Post by nihonium »

astrodust wrote: post #46
scarface74 wrote: post #32

December 2019 “Google Brass Set 2023 as Deadline to Beat Amazon, Microsoft in Cloud“ https://www.theinformation.com/articles/google-brass-set-202... The clock is ticking for Google Cloud. The Google unit, which sells computing services to big companies, is under pressure from top management to pass Amazon or Microsoft—currently first and second, respectively, in cloud market share—or risk losing funding. While the co…

What are the Vegas odds that they blow the whole thing up if they don't end up #1?

I'd say they wouldn't shut down everything but may stop adding new features.

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Post by manigandham »

scarface74 wrote: post #63
manigandham wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cloud computing is already extremely profitable, and well above their 10-figure line for a sustainable project. AppEngine has been around for more than a decade. GCP might not catch up to AWS but it's not going away.

Is it profitable for Google ?

Yes.

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Post by [deleted] »

onion2k wrote: post #59
petilon wrote: post #55

Google generated $8.9 billion in cloud sales last year, up 52.7% from $5.8 billion in 2018 and $4.1 billion the year prior. Doesn't sound like Google's cloud business is in trouble.

If it costs $10bn a year to run that would mean it represents a $1.1bn loss, and it should be killed if Google can't turn it around. Revenue is a terrible metric to judge something on.

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Post by throwaway1f5b4 »

scarface74 wrote: post #32

December 2019 “Google Brass Set 2023 as Deadline to Beat Amazon, Microsoft in Cloud“ https://www.theinformation.com/articles/google-brass-set-202... The clock is ticking for Google Cloud. The Google unit, which sells computing services to big companies, is under pressure from top management to pass Amazon or Microsoft—currently first and second, respectively, in cloud market share—or risk losing funding. While the co…

Your comment history seems very anti-Google. Every time a thread surfaces, you're not very far away, bringing the same, tired and recycled rhetoric. Why?

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Post by majormajor »

znpy wrote: post #53
basementcat wrote: post #23

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If you assemble a 9+ stage pipeline, you may reach a point where you produce approximately one baby each month.

That's throughput, not latency.

Most companies have more things they want to do then they can do in the next 6 months. So if you increase throughput without latency, you can still get more of those projects done. Even if you're still doing them all inefficiently.

It's ugly, but "don't hire more people because we'll be less efficient" often runs into this ugly "but we need more total output, not more efficiency" wall.

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Post by qmarchi »

scarface74 wrote: post #32

December 2019 “Google Brass Set 2023 as Deadline to Beat Amazon, Microsoft in Cloud“ https://www.theinformation.com/articles/google-brass-set-202... The clock is ticking for Google Cloud. The Google unit, which sells computing services to big companies, is under pressure from top management to pass Amazon or Microsoft—currently first and second, respectively, in cloud market share—or risk losing funding. While the co…

Google brass has explicitly called this out as being a false report.

Re: Google cuts jobs at cloud-computing group

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Post by tdhoot »

onlyrealcuzzo wrote: post #43
danans wrote: post #33

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I've personally been through this twice at Google. The company definitely provides a very attentive set of resources to help you find a new position within the company, but I've always been able to find a new project on my own. That said, the more flexibility you have the easier it is to find a new position. This naturally favors some people over others. In my most recent case, it ended up being a bit more challengin…

So... Like... What do you do in the interim? Not work, look for teams, and still get paid a shit ton of money? Do you do some training on the side? Work on a side project? How long does it take to find the new team?

When I saw this at Google, the employee had 60-90 paid days to find something new within the company. Some people waited til the last few weeks to find something because they essentially got two months paid vacation.
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