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Apple store workers should be paid for time waiting to be searched, court rules

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Re: Apple store workers should be paid for time waiting to be searched, court rules

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The whole concept of searching your employees after their shift just pisses me off. Just install security cameras and track your inventory. If your inventory is off, check the security footage. This isn't rocket science.

high school dropout NSA knock offs are cheaper than competent security staff.

Re: Apple store workers should be paid for time waiting to be searched, court rules

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>The court’s decision is retroactive. This seems like a pandora's box. If the employees are already off the clock to endure this delay for the searches, how will they be able to show how much time was lost in a way that would be worthy of a payment?

>This seems like a pandora's box.

Of what? Damages can rarely be calculated perfectly.

It's not the court's fault Apple falsified timecard data.

Re: Apple store workers should be paid for time waiting to be searched, court rules

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Yeah, so what I was wondering is, if you have asthma do you get paid for the time you spend waiting to be searched?

They’re going to search your inhaler?

You'll need to bring the inhaler in a bag of some kind, which Apple will want to search.

Re: Apple store workers should be paid for time waiting to be searched, court rules

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> if only because I’m not sure how you could steal more than $10 worth of stuff without a full garbage bag. People who have an idea how to do it, please don't write it here, as it can lead to worsening of the situation for store workers.

Your regular honest worker is better off, when dishonest coworkers won't steal.

I meant worsening of the situation for workers because of increase in security buffonata as a probable reaction to such revelations.

Re: Apple store workers should be paid for time waiting to be searched, court rules

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Does Apple really have a “process” for picking items up? I ordered a maxed out iMac Pro for around $15,000 and waited nearly a month for it to finally arrive at the store. I got a voice mail and an email instructing me to come pick it up. Only upon driving all the way to the store was I finally informed in person that they “accidentally” gave my iMac Pro to the wrong customer an hour ago who had merely ordered a base…

Why are you ordering this to the store and not to your home?

Not OP, but I usually order items to the nearest store not my home - I can't control when something is delievered to my home, and if I miss the delivery I have to go to the nearest depot which is a massive pain in the back. Instead I can get most things delivered to a store nearby and just pick them up on my way back from work.

Re: Apple store workers should be paid for time waiting to be searched, court rules

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Tim already has you covered, it's called shipping with required signature. They can deliver to your home or work.

So you're saying "he's ordering it wrong"?

I see what you did there.

in all seriousness though, yes? if you have to wait for the item to be shipped regardless, why would you order it to a store instead of your front door? it's the worst of both worlds.

Re: Apple store workers should be paid for time waiting to be searched, court rules

#338

As a thought experiment, what if companies are made to pay for commute time? How would that change the labour market? Would they hire local? Provide better transportation? Work with cities to reduce congestion? Encourage more remote work? Decide it's too expensive to hire workers and cut hours? Work towards more inclusive housing?

That is way unfair to the company, when you will have certain people who are 'happy' to travel 1.5 hours each way. This seems insane to me, but there are plenty of people who do this and see no issue at all. How would a company hire local anyway, by rejecting candidates who live to far away? What if they promise to move, but don't end up doing it? > Work with cities to reduce congestion? The only real working way to…

This is insane.

I commute a bit over an hour. Because I cannot afford to live close to my job and rent a place for me and child.

It would cost me triple my current rent.

Re: Apple store workers should be paid for time waiting to be searched, court rules

#340

> Employees are supposed to find a manager or security officer to do the searches after they clock out. Employees estimate that waiting for and undergoing the searches can take five to 20 minutes, or, on busiest days, up to 45 minutes. This also seems to be their process for picking up orders at the store. It's pure chaos, and I find it at least somewhat amusing that at least Apple treats their employees and customer…

The store I use LOOKS like chaos, but holy crap is it misleading. I'm always in and out of there very quickly, whether it's for something simple off the shelf or a custom pick-up. Even my last new phone took only about 30 minutes.

(Houston, Highland Village.)

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