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Re: GitHub Enterprise is now free through Microsoft for Startups

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Post by TAForObvReasons »

Alupis wrote: post #9
thefreeman wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So basically up 47 free users for 2 years. Not bad.

Is 47 users really a "startup"? If you have anywhere near 47 actual users, affording $1k a month is going to be trivial. Would be nice if you could have, say, 5 users and extend the 2 years by not using all $1k monthly credits, adding users as you grow.

It's targeted towards funded startups that are just picking up:

> Designed for: "Funded: Product Market Fit"

> The qualified offer is designed to help companies that are focused on growth, so it’s less applicable for consultancies and small businesses.

It's not designed for smaller bootstrapped businesses and other scenarios that would involve 5 users for extended periods of time

https://startups.microsoft.com/en-us/benefits/

Re: GitHub Enterprise is now free through Microsoft for Startups

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Post by detaro »

dtrailin wrote: post #39
j4yav wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

GitLab's similar program can be found at https://about.gitlab.com/solutions/startups/

> Members of the current or two most recent YCombinator batches (currently s2019, w2018, and s2018) That requirement is a pretty substantial difference. (disclosure: I work for MS)

(and GP for Gitlab)

Re: GitHub Enterprise is now free through Microsoft for Startups

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Post by toomuchtodo »

BeeOnRope wrote: post #40
toomuchtodo wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, I don’t believe it’s extremist to start paying for a commercial offering after a 2 year trial period. If you can make due with a free competing product, go for it. If you’re not making enough in 2 years to pay for basic biz expenses, you’re a hobby and you shouldn’t expect enterprise features (SSO for example) for free in perpetuity.

You are misrepresenting their argument. He didn't say paying for a commercial offering after two years is extremist. Rather, they said your position that "if you can't pay for a commerical offering in two years, it's time to give up or pivot". I also find that second position extremist.

Time is valuable, but I suppose we all value it differently. I concede being an extremist in this regard. Time is the ultimate non renewable resource.

Re: GitHub Enterprise is now free through Microsoft for Startups

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Post by alkonaut »

Alupis wrote: post #38
alkonaut wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The program offers github enterprise for free. The credits are in addition to that and can be used to e.g buy cloud CI/CD time. Running your own infrastructure doesn’t cost nothing.

> The program offers github enterprise for free. The credits are in addition to that and can be used to e.g buy cloud CI/CD time. That's not what the Github page says.

What does it say? The article itself seems pretty clear that it’s included in the free program

> [..] we’re announcing that GitHub Enterprise is now included in Microsoft for Startups, a free program [..]

Am I reading in the wrong place? Or just reading it wrong?

Re: GitHub Enterprise is now free through Microsoft for Startups

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Post by Alupis »

alkonaut wrote: post #44
Alupis wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The program offers github enterprise for free. The credits are in addition to that and can be used to e.g buy cloud CI/CD time. That's not what the Github page says.

What does it say? The article itself seems pretty clear that it’s included in the free program > [..] we’re announcing that GitHub Enterprise is now included in Microsoft for Startups, a free program [..] Am I reading in the wrong place? Or just reading it wrong?

> Participants receive $1,000 of monthly credit for up to two years of GitHub Enterprise Cloud.

They're giving select startups $1,000 monthly in free credits used to pay for GitHub Enterprise. That $1,000 isn't in addition to GH Enterprise being free.

It's unknown, but seems implied, if you can apply unused credits to their CI/CD and other offerings.

Re: GitHub Enterprise is now free through Microsoft for Startups

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Post by Alupis »

moondev wrote: post #45

I would love to run this in my homelab with a few users, is there a path for that or do I need a registered company?

You'd need to buy their self-hosted Enterprise version, which is certainly more expensive than Gitlab and Bitbucket offerings for self-hosted small team versions.

This offering is specifically for Enterprise Cloud, which they host.

Re: GitHub Enterprise is now free through Microsoft for Startups

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Post by bigmit37 »

Would companies have to worry about their proprietary code being seen and used in a not-so-obvious way?

If some start up is working on some novel ML algorithms, that has some nice demos out in the public showcasing their work, I wonder if these bigger companies would take a peek at the source code and use some ideas from the algos for their ml products. This would prevent start-up from expanding into other areas.

Re: GitHub Enterprise is now free through Microsoft for Startups

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Post by divbzero »

moondev wrote: post #45

I would love to run this in my homelab with a few users, is there a path for that or do I need a registered company?

The answer appears to be: yes you must be a privately held company.

The FAQs for Microsoft for Startups [1] list the following requirements:

- You must be engaged in development of a software-based product or service that will form a core piece of you current or intended business - this software must be owned, not licensed.

- You cannot have received more than $10,000 of free Azure in the past.

- Your headquarters must reside in the countries covered by our Azure global infrastructure.

- You must be a privately held company.

- You must operate a public website on your own domain.

- Your contact email address domain must match your public website.

- Your funding information must be verifiable.

The FAQs also add that:

> The qualified offer is designed to help companies that are focused on growth, so it’s less applicable for consultancies and small businesses. If you are a small business or consultancy you can get started with a free trial.

[1]: https://startups.microsoft.com/en-us/benefits/#faq

Note also that Microsoft’s new offer is for GitHub Enterprise Cloud, not self-hosted GitHub Enterprise. GitLab is probably your best bet for a self-hosted GitHub alternative. [2]

[2]: https://about.gitlab.com/install/

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