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Re: Microsoft begins showing an anti-Firefox ad in the Windows 10 start menu

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It's tongue-in-cheek of course :). That being said, I did find tiling WMs to be very unwieldy on most screens. When I first went down the tiling WM rabbit hole, I was using a laptop with a 15" screen, and that was great. After a while I got a 27" monitor, though, and tiling became extremely annoying -- every window is now either too wide to be read comfortably and I end up padding the screen with useless xterms, or t…

Tiling window managers are a great way to fiddle with window arrangement LESS not more. Shoving terminal windows between other windows for spacing is spacebar heating. I3 has a branch with the feature required its called i3-gaps. This feature is on its way to becoming a part of mainline i3 but has been available for about 11 years now as a separate package. https://github.com/Airblader/i3 The setting smart_gaps inver…

So, like I said in my other reply: this was back when i3-gaps was pretty fresh. I don't recall the inverse_outer outer setting, and looking at the github repository, it looks like it was merged in 2018. I'm talking about something that happened like ten years ago :-).

As for this part:

> As far as windows being too small to read comfortably I'd advise you to place no more than 2-3 windows per workspace. For the benefit of those who don't use i3 workspaces are per monitor.

Yeah, this is pretty much where the fiddling comes from.

I don't want to use 2-3 windows per workspace. I sometimes have to work on a piece of code and have 8-10 PDFs open for it -- datasheets, reference guides, schematics and whatnot, at which I want to be able to look from time to time. Sometimes while I'm also looking at the code, sometimes in full-screen (because I'm looking at a big diagram). Sometimes I need to look at a part of a diagram while I'm looking at the code. So I need them to be in the same view as the code. All in all -- including specs, standards, the code window(s), a few xterms -- I easily have 12-15 windows open in order to work on one thing, and it's not really optional.

i3's tabbed view is sort of what I wanted for the PDFs but it's annoying that, if you want to switch to the right one using nothing but the keyboard, you have to go through all of them. You go back and forth, not to the Nth tab (or at least you couldn't back when I tried i3).

That's actually what I liked about ratpoison. Instead of trying to be smart, it just let me multiplex my screen, which is what I really wanted.

I could sort of bend my workflow around all this and, through a complicated set of chords, make use of the whole thing in a productive manner. However, it was anything but convenient. I'm way happier with a floating WM and do a lot less fiddling with the windows.

Re: Microsoft begins showing an anti-Firefox ad in the Windows 10 start menu

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Organisation chart comic referred to: https://web.archive.org/web/20110701051217/http://www.bonker...

And for those who wonder like me, the original is still there: https://bonkersworld.net/organizational-charts I guess linking to the web archive is just carefulness at this point.

>I guess linking to the web archive is just carefulness at this point.

It's a good idea IMO. Now that the web has been around for literally decades, I can't tell you how many times I've searched for something, found blog/forum posts to read, and then tried following links in those posts only to find they're dead, because they're so many years out-of-date.

Re: Microsoft begins showing an anti-Firefox ad in the Windows 10 start menu

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or are completely unavailable on other OSs (many video games) I get a chuckle whenever I realize how things have changed. In the early to mid-80's, there was a popular mantra that the IBM PC ecosystem was for "serous work," and anything else was "just for games," which was a slap at Apple (then dominant for business, but rapidly slipping) and the other alternatives. Today, it seems that for the majority of ordinary p…

Games back then weren't an important part of our culture. They are now. Consequently they are a requirement. Seems simple enough to understand.

Games back then weren't an important part of our culture.

The mind boggles.

I think you've just outed yourself as someone who wasn't alive or awake back then.

Re: Microsoft begins showing an anti-Firefox ad in the Windows 10 start menu

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Has anyone here actually looked at the "anti-Firefox" ad in question? It's literally a tile that says "Still using Firefox? Edge is here!". I'm not really sure what we expected here. This is about the same as a browser asking you to make it default when you open it. All big companies do weird anti competitive things. This isn't one of those things. I know I'll likely get downvoted for this opinion, but to many commen…

I remember this for all major browsers, so it's not just firefox

Re: Microsoft begins showing an anti-Firefox ad in the Windows 10 start menu

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So? There are free products with ads (like Gmail), paid products without ads (like Netflix and Windows 8), and paid products with ads (like Hulu and Win10 home edition). I'm not the biggest fan of the paid+ads business model, but it's a valid model and Microsoft has been pretty consistent - Win10 has followed this model since release, so nobody is being tricked.

People were tricked when they were forced to upgrade through confusing prompts. People were forced when Microsoft strong-armed processor companies to not support Windows 8 and instead force Windows 10’upgrades if you wanted new machines. Disclosure: I worked for Microsoft during Windows 8 through early Windows 10 development on related teams.

> Microsoft strong-armed processor companies to not support Windows 8 and instead force Windows 10’upgrades if you wanted new machines

Do you mean to say that Microsoft clearly communicated Win8 EOL dates and OEMs choose to move accordingly? If not, can you cite a source?

Edit: after some googling, I think you mean - Microsoft didn't think it was worth the expense to pay engineers to backport processor support to Win8. Bit of a difference from "strong-arming" the processor companies

Re: Microsoft begins showing an anti-Firefox ad in the Windows 10 start menu

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Have you tried using Translate for a web page recently, instead of just a couple sentences of text? Some time ago, they removed that functionality, instead instructing users to use a browser with native translation capabilities to translate pages. It's a pretty blatant push to get people over onto Chrome.

No they didn't. Paste a URL and hit the icon next to it. https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&tab=TT&sl=auto&...

Hm. It may have been as part of something temporary, but I definitely ran into that message recently. Good to see it's back.

Re: Microsoft begins showing an anti-Firefox ad in the Windows 10 start menu

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post #324

Has anyone here actually looked at the "anti-Firefox" ad in question? It's literally a tile that says "Still using Firefox? Edge is here!". I'm not really sure what we expected here. This is about the same as a browser asking you to make it default when you open it. All big companies do weird anti competitive things. This isn't one of those things. I know I'll likely get downvoted for this opinion, but to many commen…

It's not an overreaction. It's literally a targeted ad showing up in your day to day work space. It's invasive. I switched to mac a long time ago, but I still have a Windows device because some things are just painful (or impossible) to use on a mac. The difference between using an application that prompts "make this default?" and a specifically targeted ad showing up on your start menu is that the user used the appl…

You can't delete Apple's Music app in the same simple way that you can delete the Spotify music app.

Same thing. Abuse of monopoly.

Re: Microsoft begins showing an anti-Firefox ad in the Windows 10 start menu

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I'd pay up to 500€ for a 100% telemetry / ad free version of Windows.

If the Bavarian agency for data protection is to be believed, you can fully disable telemetry in the enterprise/education version ($300/license). https://www.ghacks.net/2020/02/02/german-data-protection-age...

I tried to look for the enterprise version a few years back. It is unobtainium unless you're buying a few thousand of them.

Re: Microsoft begins showing an anti-Firefox ad in the Windows 10 start menu

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It is until AMD goes mainstream with an instruction set not developed by Intel.

Such as AMD64? :)

Okay, or directly descended from an instruction set designed by Intel :P

Re: Microsoft begins showing an anti-Firefox ad in the Windows 10 start menu

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> freedom-concerned software. Thank you for giving a example of why we can't use the term "free software" any more. Also fuck Ubuntu.

It seems a bit absurd that this is still a reason to say 'fuck ubuntu' when they listened to user feedback and reversed that feature. I can't think of any other similar missteps in recent years.

> I can't think of any other similar missteps in recent years.

I stopped using Ubuntu a while ago due to a large number of individually minor "missteps", so I don't have any equally blatant/memorable (or particularly recent) examples, but there were enough of them to be a constant hazard of updating anything.

(For similarly large, there's systemd and wayland, but neither those are specific to Ubuntu.)

Also, someone (for analogy) dumping toxic waste into a drinking water supply, and then listening to feedback and ceasing to dump toxic waste into the water supply, still seems like a damn good reason to say "fuck those guys in particular" to me, and that's what shipping malware in a software update amounts to.

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