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Microsoft begins showing an anti-Firefox ad in the Windows 10 start menu

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Re: Microsoft begins showing an anti-Firefox ad in the Windows 10 start menu

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Post by efreak »

squaresmile wrote: post #66
Shorel wrote: post #54

The old Edge is one of the best Epub readers I have ever used. The new Edge, I have no reason at all to use it over Firefox. I hope no banking website makes it necessary to use Edge, as it happened with previous Microsoft browsers.

Yep, it's a shame that they removed it and actively prevented me from using it even though I still have old Edge on my system. Now I need to import epubs into Calibre to have a reasonable epub reader.

FBReader is available for windows, if you're looking for open source (keeping in mind that the Android version is no longer open source, so it's not the same FBReader). CoolReader is also available for windows.

Personally, I actually prefer calibre's ebook reader; if you dislike it, but do use a Calibre library, Calibre Web [0] has a (IMO) fairly decent browser-based ebook reader

[0]: https://github.com/janeczku/calibre-web

Re: Microsoft begins showing an anti-Firefox ad in the Windows 10 start menu

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Post by minifigone »

jammygit wrote: post #387
Delmania wrote: post #102

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How is this shady compared to Google's ads for Chrome on google.com or the paid search results in the App Store? All the tech giants participate in this behavior.

Just because the other skeezy companies do it doesn’t legitimize it. That’s like saying colonialism was great because everyone was doing it

No, but it rationalizes and generalizes the conversation so rather than discussing/attacking a single company, discussion can be about the greater problem and how to fix it.

Re: Microsoft begins showing an anti-Firefox ad in the Windows 10 start menu

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Post by PeterisP »

dublinben wrote: post #418
owl57 wrote: post #363

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GNOME isn't fine. See, on switching keyboard layout it switches focus from current window while it writes some file to disk. Yes, it's not terrible on SSD, and I bet whoever invented this monstrosity has an SSD. But needing an SSD not to lose some of the letters you type just screams of insanity. OTOH, yes, the rest of Ubuntu is fine, and to anyone fed up with Windows I gladly recommend anything else based on Ubuntu…

How often does a user switch their keyboard layout?

In various non-european scenarios, possibly multiple times per sentence. For example, including the word "Microsoft" or "Linux" in the middle of non-latin script requires two keyboard layout switches, to latin and back.

Re: Microsoft begins showing an anti-Firefox ad in the Windows 10 start menu

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Post by CamperBob2 »

reaperducer wrote: post #295
wgerard wrote: post #82

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> I just don't understand why people run windows. There are many, many products that either run significantly better on windows (Office) or are completely unavailable on other OSs (many video games). That's changing, for sure. But there's still a long tail of products that semi-necessitate windows.

or are completely unavailable on other OSs (many video games) I get a chuckle whenever I realize how things have changed. In the early to mid-80's, there was a popular mantra that the IBM PC ecosystem was for "serous work," and anything else was "just for games," which was a slap at Apple (then dominant for business, but rapidly slipping) and the other alternatives. Today, it seems that for the majority of ordinary p…

Games back then weren't an important part of our culture. They are now. Consequently they are a requirement.

Seems simple enough to understand.

Re: Microsoft begins showing an anti-Firefox ad in the Windows 10 start menu

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Post by PeterisP »

heavenlyblue wrote: post #275
wgerard wrote: post #82

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> I just don't understand why people run windows. There are many, many products that either run significantly better on windows (Office) or are completely unavailable on other OSs (many video games). That's changing, for sure. But there's still a long tail of products that semi-necessitate windows.

How is office better than Google Docs?

Interoperability.

For me, a common use case is to receive a large document from someone using MS Office, make small alterations or comments, and send it back... while being certain that I have not changed anything else (including formatting and layout of included illustrations) that I did not want to change. Neither Google Docs nor OpenOffice currently support that, simply opening and saving a nontrivial Word document changes the layout.

Re: Microsoft begins showing an anti-Firefox ad in the Windows 10 start menu

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Post by CamperBob2 »

galangalalgol wrote: post #237
robbyt wrote: post #220

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Great people don't work at crappy companies.

I have heard second hand that the devtools group is practically a separate company.

What does their paycheck say?

Re: Microsoft begins showing an anti-Firefox ad in the Windows 10 start menu

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Post by proactivesvcs »

zeusk wrote: post #373
black_puppydog wrote: post #331

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This is Microsoft using their desktop operating system market share to drive their web browser market share. That's pretty much what they got sued for before. Given, their market position in desktop might be a different one now than back then. But it's still quite close to what antitrust laws were written against. Also saying "oh all corps do stuff like that calm down" is a really bad defense IMO.

Try using any Google property without chrome, or try using any iOS device without safari. This is pretty harmless in my opinion.

I am an occasional user of Maps, YouTube, Blogger and Translate. Never used Chrome, and all of these properties work just fine and have not tried to push Chrome.

I'm also using a stock Android and have never used Chrome on it. Play Store, Play Games, Find my Device, and the Google app work just fine and haven't tried to push Chrome either.

I guess I should prepend these observations with "Yet", as I'm not at all of the opinion that it'll never happen.

Re: Microsoft begins showing an anti-Firefox ad in the Windows 10 start menu

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Post by zeusk »

jammygit wrote: post #390
Cthulhu_ wrote: post #193

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Once, maybe; Windows' business model has changed, they are only charging for Windows 10 OEM now and have stopped trying to publish a new paid version every few years. Their business model is recurring payments now like Office365 and OneDrive, but also ads inside of applications and I presume selling your usage data to third parties.

Non OEM copies of Windows are like $200+ (unless you buy the fake/scam keys from amazon recommended windows sellers)

You can still run the 10 upgrade assistant and get it for free.
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