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Re: Tracking systems of TV streaming devices

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Post by tpush »

SmellyGeekBoy wrote: post #31
izacus wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Optical media these days has a horribly intrusive DRM system, which prevents you from watching the content on most of PCs (see AACS 2.0 on Blu-Ray drives). Ripping them is pretty much impossible unless you do some very DMCA illegal firmware patching... and even that doesn't always work.

It's mind boggling that they continue to make life so difficult for paying customers when it's possible to go to a site like Pirate Bay and get a bit-perfect rip in less than 15 minutes without Hollywood making a single penny. Just let me buy DRM-free movies and download them to my NAS - and without all the tracking bullshit!

Torrenting is sadly impractical in some countries :/

Re: Tracking systems of TV streaming devices

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Post by OnlineHeaven »

I have a Roku and it's a targeted advertising machine. Great if you're a marketer but kinda iffy if you're just an ordinary consumer. I see ads for debit card purchases within a matter of hours. I don't mind because I'm into marketing and might leverage the adtech at some point. But if you're concerned about privacy, stay far away.

Re: Tracking systems of TV streaming devices

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Post by RandomBacon »

jammygit wrote: post #49

Here’s a question: when my old tv dies, where can I even get a new non-smart tv? I haven’t seen a new one sold in years now

Walmart and Amazon. They even sell 4k "dumb" TVs.

https://www.walmart.com/browse/electronics/sceptre-tvs/3944_...

This link used to have better results, but Amazon must have changed something: https://www.amazon.com/s?k=4k+-smart&rh=n%3A1266092011

Re: Tracking systems of TV streaming devices

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Post by izacus »

willis936 wrote: post #36
SmellyGeekBoy wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's mind boggling that they continue to make life so difficult for paying customers when it's possible to go to a site like Pirate Bay and get a bit-perfect rip in less than 15 minutes without Hollywood making a single penny. Just let me buy DRM-free movies and download them to my NAS - and without all the tracking bullshit!

Is it though? I have never seen a bit perfect rip on tpb. I have paid for sketchy software to have access to blu-ray ripping software to get around this while trying to play with high bitrate material and understand a bit more about it. 25 GB is the smallest a blu ray gets, with most being 50 GB (and potentially up to 300 GB, though I have not seen this personally). UHD blu ray goes from 50 GB to 100 GB. No one is ri…

There are plenty of sources that provide so-called remuxes of BR content, which usually are sufficiently high bitrate.

Re: Tracking systems of TV streaming devices

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Post by willis936 »

izacus wrote: post #55
willis936 wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is it though? I have never seen a bit perfect rip on tpb. I have paid for sketchy software to have access to blu-ray ripping software to get around this while trying to play with high bitrate material and understand a bit more about it. 25 GB is the smallest a blu ray gets, with most being 50 GB (and potentially up to 300 GB, though I have not seen this personally). UHD blu ray goes from 50 GB to 100 GB. No one is ri…

There are plenty of sources that provide so-called remuxes of BR content, which usually are sufficiently high bitrate.

Which is fine and well. "Good enough" is a soft target and blu-ray transcodes are higher quality than every other option (except for the blu rays themselves). My point was that if you want the highest available quality, physical media is still the most available and convenient way to get it.

Re: Tracking systems of TV streaming devices

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Post by crtasm »

izacus wrote: post #21
colechristensen wrote: post #2

I knew this was the case but the reminder is just more motivation to revert back to purchasing optical media, ripping it, and using mpv on a computer. I don't want my entertainment to be tied up with advertising. I don't want my whole life to be subject to metrics.

Optical media these days has a horribly intrusive DRM system, which prevents you from watching the content on most of PCs (see AACS 2.0 on Blu-Ray drives). Ripping them is pretty much impossible unless you do some very DMCA illegal firmware patching... and even that doesn't always work.

Is that still the case for ripping? I was under the impression that all you need now is a copy of https://www.makemkv.com/

edit: skimming their forum I see mentions of firmware flashing/patching so I believe that's answered my question.

Re: Tracking systems of TV streaming devices

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Post by crtasm »

willis936 wrote: post #36
SmellyGeekBoy wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's mind boggling that they continue to make life so difficult for paying customers when it's possible to go to a site like Pirate Bay and get a bit-perfect rip in less than 15 minutes without Hollywood making a single penny. Just let me buy DRM-free movies and download them to my NAS - and without all the tracking bullshit!

Is it though? I have never seen a bit perfect rip on tpb. I have paid for sketchy software to have access to blu-ray ripping software to get around this while trying to play with high bitrate material and understand a bit more about it. 25 GB is the smallest a blu ray gets, with most being 50 GB (and potentially up to 300 GB, though I have not seen this personally). UHD blu ray goes from 50 GB to 100 GB. No one is ri…

>No one is ripping these things, and certainly no one is seeding them, and most certainly no one is leeching them.

I searched for 'remux' (which means original video+audio data, no quality loss) on the rarbg site mentioned in another reply to your comment. People are definitely ripping, seeding and downloading them.

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