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> His mom ended up calling my sister or our landline to check up on her son. It was annoying AF. What you call "annoying AF" was reality for many many years, and yet people were not constantly annoyed..
It was a different time. The cost of communication is near zero, so if you can’t be bothered, people get annoyed.
Living without a SIM card
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Re: Living without a SIM card
#202Earlier quoted context omitted.
My decision to permanently disconnect from your ilk has nothing to do with convenience. All your ilk ever cares about is convenience--which is your biggest weakness. You don't think look at things from a bigger perspective, but are always focused narrowly on what's easiest. Some of us have principles also. Yes, we know very well that having principles and living by them annoys your type, especially when the very exis…
You are arguing against something completely different than the subthread is about, while being condescending about it.
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#203Earlier quoted context omitted.
sms is not PSD2 compliant which means it can't be used as SCA method https://www.zdnet.com/article/german-banks-are-moving-away-f...
This article summarizes a document that's titled "opinion". As long as there is no definite legal outlawing of SMS, many banks will continue to use it.
>> To fulfil its statutory objective of contributing to supervisory convergence in the EU/European Economic Area (EEA), and to do so in the specific context of the RTS, the EBA is issuing a further opinion with a view to responding to the large number of queries that the EBA and national competent authorities (CAs) have received from market participants on SCA and, in particular, on what procedure or combination of authentication elements may or may not constitute SCA
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#204I've been without a SIM for over a year. Here are a few more tips: - Google Voice gives you a free number that works anywhere and can be used for texting and 2FA. (There are some exceptions.) - Calling with Google Hangouts is free to some countries, cheap in others, and can be configured to show your Google Voice number as the caller. Unfortunately, the call quality cans be pretty bad, definitely worse than, say, Sky…
If all you need is a number to text people there are other alternatives that don't harvest data like Google.
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#205Earlier quoted context omitted.
I find it hard to take people entirely seriously when in order for them to live their pseudo-ascetic lifestyle, they require other people around who haven't taken that step. The OP is claiming the way he uses his tech gives him a cost saving and encouraging people to follow suit, when if everyone did that then he wouldn't be able to do the things he does any more. So it's not a sustainable lifestyle, because it leech…
Another good example of this sort of behavior - I know someone who doesn't carry any credit cards and prefers to pay cash for everything where possible. This is generally fine, however, since they're responsible enough to be carrying plenty of cash to cover whatever they need. It would be quite annoying if they constantly only had $5 in their wallet and needed their friends to cover for them with a card whenever we w…
I'm sure he would be perfectly fine with her not calling at all, and just speaking with her the next time he sees her, the way 95% of humans on the planet are perfectly capable of doing. But she chooses to not respect his very wise and very reasonable mode of living, and you choose to see that as being his fault somehow.
Re: Living without a SIM card
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My sister’s former boyfriend used to carry a phone without a SIM. His mom ended up calling my sister or our landline to check up on her son. It was annoying AF. Feel free to live off the grid, but please make sure you don’t leech off of those around you.
> His mom ended up calling my sister or our landline to check up on her son. It was annoying AF. What you call "annoying AF" was reality for many many years, and yet people were not constantly annoyed..
It might have been a reality pre-00s ─ today if you want to play out any Jason Bourne fantasies, they will not be considered just annoying but suspicious, as your number gets intrinsically linked with somebody else's activities.
Re: Living without a SIM card
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Strikes me as a feature. Who really wants to be judged as a person by what they own rather than who and what they are?
But it's not what they own, it's what they impose on others. The implication here isn't that they're being judged for not having a phone (with a SIM card), and that they're constantly relying and leaching from others. That can be annoying, and people tend to not like annoying people?
Let's talk texts.
Compare:
1. An employee gets all of their break time eaten up by a friend who is off work and sending tens of low-effort messages for help with choosing an appropriate cafe for a double-date that night. (Saw it happen.)
2. An employee has nice, relaxing breaks. Then they meet up with a group of three that includes a friend who spends five minutes annoying the other three until someone finally decides on which cafe to visit.
Given that employee as input data, which is the preferable system? If you answer 1 then I've got a lot more questions for you.
It's too bad that texts generate so much flak that an "off the grid" person's absence doesn't register. But it's still a benefit for current SIM card holders that the "off the grid" person isn't adding flak to that broken system of communication.
Not sure it outweighs the mom calling the sister. But texts are generally such a productivity drain it is worth noting.
Re: Living without a SIM card
#208To me, the price paid to a cellular provider is actually preferable to relying on other people's WiFi networks. Using someone else's WiFi isn't a security advantage, it's the opposite. You're bumming off of someone's network and not even paying them - so who knows what their motivations might be. Who knows if the network that the SSID claims to be is actually that network. Is Starbucks Free WiFi actually run by Starb…
Exactly this. The only reason public Wi-Fi is a thing in this day and age is marketing & advertising tracking. Venues don't deploy it out of the goodness of their hearts, they do so because the data they collect from it exceeds the cost of deploying and operating it. Another issue is that most public Wi-Fi is provided by a few companies offering it "as a service" to the venue so these companies can track you across d…
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#209Earlier quoted context omitted.
Exactly this. The only reason public Wi-Fi is a thing in this day and age is marketing & advertising tracking. Venues don't deploy it out of the goodness of their hearts, they do so because the data they collect from it exceeds the cost of deploying and operating it. Another issue is that most public Wi-Fi is provided by a few companies offering it "as a service" to the venue so these companies can track you across d…
The reason cafes offer wifi is that otherwise people would stop coming.
When was the last time you chose your coffee shop based on whether the WiFi was offered?
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#210Earlier quoted context omitted.
They're referring to the Revised Directive on Payment Services ("PSD2") passed by the European Union which imposes a requirement to use "Strong Customer Authentication" for certain financial transactions (online or contactless) to reduce fraud, among other things. When you make a payment over a certain size, you're required to verify that it's you making the payment. It's 2FA for payments essentially, you enter the c…
SMS is not PSD2 compliant. https://www.zdnet.com/article/german-banks-are-moving-away-f...