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Living without a SIM card

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Re: Living without a SIM card

#111
Living without SIM Card is actually quite doable (I haven't made phone calls for a while and non of previous ones was mandatory), and you can always get a number using IP Phone or something else.

Living without Internet, on the other hand...

Re: Living without a SIM card

#112
post #80

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Sounds like they're just cheap; and the off the grid part doesn't necessarily have anything to do with it.

exactly the original comment was make sure not to leach, and someone else thought it was a toxic attitude, and I don't think it is too toxic an attitude - because there are people who are leaches after all.

But there's being a leach, and there's trying to cope given a moral-philosophical decision not to use a phone. And you're not distinguishing them.

Re: Living without a SIM card

#113

> …it's the only thing which has prevented me from having to continually make international calls from a friends phone By relying on other people it is possible to do without many things. However, unless you have other ways of signaling sufficient status or wealth (such as being a digital nomad living abroad in a lower income country), people you continuously rely on for essentials might start treating you with a lit…

I was going to say.. you definitely don’t need much if others are paying the bill. Some people see friendship as an excuse to expect to use the resources of others.

Re: Living without a SIM card

#114

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Especially because it wasn't that long ago (by my standards) that not everyone had a personal phone in their pocket. In fact, only 33 years ago my parents had to call the neighbours 3 doors further to call my aunt to notify her (and my grandparents who happen to be visiting her) of my birth. Although, I admit as someone with a speech impediment, I absolutely loath using the phone. But it's a necessity even as a softw…

Or when you (effectively) work night shift, and some #$%#$%# telemarketer decides to call at 9am.

I feel you. After my last phone broke I decided to get a dual SIM phone. I set up my phone to block all calls on the first SIM from any unknown number. I got a cheap second pre-paid SIM and essentially made it my 'business number'. On my android I then have it set up to 'Do not disturb' mode during sleeping hours. The transition was a bit more cumbersome than I anticipated, but after it was all said and done, I couldn't be happier with the outcome. My friends and family can get a hold of me whenever, and I no longer get calls from business/employer/etc unless it is in the allocated times I want.

Re: Living without a SIM card

#115
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If saving money is the reason, go for a prepaid card. German/Dutch prepaid cards have far long credit life. I travel full-time nowadays and I can use my KPN number for less than €1 per year. German Alditalk credit lasts 24 months IIRC, and topping up extends the credit shelf life. Pretty much every SIM card has free incoming SMS when roaming. USSD are also free with some carriers. Losing SIM card is less of a hassle…

A German/Dutch sim card doesn't help someone living in Indonesia/Malaysia.

Also, the fact that the credit lasts 24 months before they steal it for not using it is meaningless, since life with a sim that has no data and makes no outgoing calls or sms is almost identical to life without a sim, except for the tracking and the ability to be found by others.

So i think it completely misses the message.

Re: Living without a SIM card

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post #104

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He will be judged for his actions - becoming a burden to other people by choice

This thread is insane... How did we go from someone borrowing others' phone on occasion to these ideas of Social Darwinism? At this rate, someone is going to suggest euthanasia within two more comments tops. For most people, lending their phone won't even incur marginal costs considering the trend towards flat rates. If you find yourself being annoyed by such situations, note that these feelings are bound to make you…

Lending the phone to someone who is in need for some other reason is fine.

Lending the phone to someone who doesn't want to carry one even knowing they will need it? Not fine. That person has little respect to others if they think they can't be bothered carrying a phone but everyone else should lend theirs when needed.

Not to mention modern phones are very personal. Our entire lives is there.

Re: Living without a SIM card

#117
A reasonable compromise is to just have a SIM card with a basic prepaid phone (and SMS) plan but no data. Lots of people I know do that. Phone is online at home, in the workplace, at restaurants etc, and you can communicate.

Re: Living without a SIM card

#118
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Why does this have to involve a SIM card though? Why not use the device itself, e.g. authenticator?

BankId works even with non-smart phones. Plus it’s storage of private keys is more secure than the crypto-storage on cheaper smart-phones.

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Re: Living without a SIM card

#119
post #99

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The example doesn't quite seem to connect to the moral. Maybe he didn't want his mom to call him. If a third party calls you to inquire about me, why is that my problem?

Because you care about people around you and don’t want them to suffer because of indirect consequences of your actions...?

You guys have a warped sense of reality if this is suffering to you.

Oh noo you had to answer a phone. Fu k me.

Re: Living without a SIM card

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post #57
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My sister’s former boyfriend used to carry a phone without a SIM. His mom ended up calling my sister or our landline to check up on her son. It was annoying AF. Feel free to live off the grid, but please make sure you don’t leech off of those around you.

> His mom ended up calling my sister or our landline to check up on her son. It was annoying AF. What you call "annoying AF" was reality for many many years, and yet people were not constantly annoyed..

It was a different time. The cost of communication is near zero, so if you can’t be bothered, people get annoyed.
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