Honestly for non indexed search VoidTools everything is leaps and bounds before windows search. It searches directly in the NTFS dictionaries and is blazing fast.
Skepticism after Windows 10 search failure
91–100 of 189 posts
Re: Skepticism after Windows 10 search failure
#92Earlier quoted context omitted.
I also use O&O shutup. It's portable and needs to be run only once and perhaps after a windows update. Lately, the windows updates doesn't seem to alter the changes I made using shutup. It's a convenience tool. If you look up everything you can do it all manually.
Everything is a search engine, not at all related to O&O shutup.
[deleted]
Re: Skepticism after Windows 10 search failure
#93Earlier quoted context omitted.
It’s relatively easy to implement search - you need only minimize the Levenshtein distance between the search string and the file name string. The difficult part is actually indexing all file names and their string contents on the system. Grep is a different tool, mainly using regular expressions to match strings within files and I don’t think it is feasible to be continually loading the contents of all strings conta…
I was always very skeptical about the need for search indexing for local files - how often do you search for stuff to need indexing in the first place? I have a ton of files, certainly more than the average Windows user and i do search for things often enough (at least once a day). To search i use Total Commander (allows for both wildcard/regex searches, archive searches, content search with a bunch of options) which…
Agreed. updatedb from the locate package is typically the first thing that I uninstall on a new Linux installation.
The nightly cronjob definitely consumes a lot more resources over time then it will ever save me waiting time.
Re: Skepticism after Windows 10 search failure
#94Earlier quoted context omitted.
It’s relatively easy to implement search - you need only minimize the Levenshtein distance between the search string and the file name string. The difficult part is actually indexing all file names and their string contents on the system. Grep is a different tool, mainly using regular expressions to match strings within files and I don’t think it is feasible to be continually loading the contents of all strings conta…
I was always very skeptical about the need for search indexing for local files - how often do you search for stuff to need indexing in the first place? I have a ton of files, certainly more than the average Windows user and i do search for things often enough (at least once a day). To search i use Total Commander (allows for both wildcard/regex searches, archive searches, content search with a bunch of options) which…
Every time?
Searching everything takes lots of time, searching through an indexed database takes less than a second. When in windows I use a locate-port[1] that I use to index any local disks as well as remote network shares of interest. It would take about an hour to search everything.
But an hour wouldn't be that bad, the problem arises when you are not quite sure what you are looking for. Getting the response back instantaneous is invaluable because you can refine your search in seconds.
Re: Skepticism after Windows 10 search failure
#95The search behaves “as if” it’s using randomly-ordered keys in a random source dictionary, and it’s maddening. If I type what seems to be the same 3 letters a few times in a row, the result is always different: one time it acts like the app isn’t even installed, another time it finds the app (first choice), another time it finds some other random sub-component instead of the app with a weird file extension. Oh, and m…
What i find strange is, i type in a program that is recently added and listed at the top of the start menu, and it doesn't come up in the search..
Then, i tried searching again, and it comes up, 3rd time lucky.. Doesn't make sense at all!
Re: Skepticism after Windows 10 search failure
#96Frustration with Windows Start menu search drove me to install Keypirinha: https://keypirinha.com/
Specifically: I type ope and the top of the list is Skype, then the Opera folder, then Office. When I add an r then About Your PC is at the top. then opera.pak, and at last Opera. But even if I type Opera the hit I expect is still not at the top of the list.
With Keypirinha it remembers which one I choose and promotes it to the top.
And that was before Search stopped working. If I didn't need SQL Server and Visual Studio for the work I do I would not have Windows on any of my own hardware.
Re: Skepticism after Windows 10 search failure
#97It's amusing (and infuriating) that file search - IMO, one of the most important features for a desktop O/S - has been utterly broken in Windows since Vista. On Windows 10, half the time it just hangs with "Searching files", displaying zero results. The other half, search simply says "Nothing found", even when I know there is a match. I just tested it with %USERPROFILE%/.docker - open up File Explorer and search for…
Use Everything instead. https://www.voidtools.com/
Re: Skepticism after Windows 10 search failure
#98Earlier quoted context omitted.
I believe there is a way to disable bing search by setting some flags in the windows registry. I was affected by this bug, and the way to fix it was to disable online search. There's a bunch of articles online on how to do it, eg: https://www.windowslatest.com/2020/02/05/its-not-just-you-wi... Basically have to set HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Search\BingSearchEnabled to 0 and HKEY_CURR…
ShutUp10 lets you turn this on/off easily with a toggle, as with MANY other "features" of Windows 10 like all the telemetry: https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10
Thank you!
Re: Skepticism after Windows 10 search failure
#99The search behaves “as if” it’s using randomly-ordered keys in a random source dictionary, and it’s maddening. If I type what seems to be the same 3 letters a few times in a row, the result is always different: one time it acts like the app isn’t even installed, another time it finds the app (first choice), another time it finds some other random sub-component instead of the app with a weird file extension. Oh, and m…
What i find strange is, i type in a program that is recently added and listed at the top of the start menu, and it doesn't come up in the search.. Then, i tried searching again, and it comes up, 3rd time lucky.. Doesn't make sense at all!
It makes perfect sense if your indexing is very slow or broken..
Re: Skepticism after Windows 10 search failure
#100Earlier quoted context omitted.
I was always very skeptical about the need for search indexing for local files - how often do you search for stuff to need indexing in the first place? I have a ton of files, certainly more than the average Windows user and i do search for things often enough (at least once a day). To search i use Total Commander (allows for both wildcard/regex searches, archive searches, content search with a bunch of options) which…
Every time? Searching everything takes lots of time, searching through an indexed database takes less than a second. When in windows I use a locate-port[1] that I use to index any local disks as well as remote network shares of interest. It would take about an hour to search everything. But an hour wouldn't be that bad, the problem arises when you are not quite sure what you are looking for. Getting the response back…
And your use case makes sense; but your use case is not typical for 99% of desktop OS users.
And instantaneous results mean nothing if they're worthless. I'd rather let you turn on indexing because you need it and it matches your use case. Leave the other 99% alone.