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Re: Skepticism after Windows 10 search failure

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Microsoft doesn’t build Windows with the consumer as the priority. Microsoft first, then big business, then advertisers. I used to find this aggravating but it’s better to accept it and move on.

To me, Microsoft's PR message has always amounted to "Windows users are either too busy, dumb, disorganized, impatient, or unfamiliar with their systems to know how to do things, so we try to think for them." It was amazing how much more productive and powerful I felt switching to Linux. Like, I could suddenly FIX problems without having to install some sketchy .exe or driver. Can't understand why people stick with Windows when they have other options.

Re: Skepticism after Windows 10 search failure

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Windows 10 search is a weird beast anyways. Sometimes it finds things, sometimes it doesn’t. On my work machines it often doesn’t even find items from the start menu.

Look at how much the results change based on small changes to the input. Type three letters in a name and get a lot of things that aren't what you want. Type the fourth letter and the exact thing you're looking for jumps to the top. But if you add the fifth letter it goes away. I feel like it's trying to be too clever or, because it assumes the input is coming from voice recognition, it doesn't trust that what you ty…

Yeah it really is insane. I have folders where I will be looking at the file and no search expression will show it. It has been like that for a while. Stunningly bad.

Re: Skepticism after Windows 10 search failure

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post #12

The state of this webpage and most i visit on a daily basis makes me sad. Can’t just open a page and read stuff anymore. There’s a vide being loaded and before that finishes the cookie popup comes up.

Disabling Javascript by default avoids most of this, though it breaks some sites.

uBlock has some cookie popup removers

Re: Skepticism after Windows 10 search failure

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I don't understand. I don't want my start menu to search my files or the internet or be smart in any way, I just want it to show my installed programs or apps or whatever you want to call them. If I want to search my files I have a program for that, if I want to search the internet I open my browser. Why do we have to over complicate things! Who asked for this?

I would be ok if it did things in a predictable and configurable way. But it sometimes feels almost random.

At this point.. I think it's fair to call it a MS tradition. I don't think I ever recall searching in windows to be useful out of the box (or even after tweaking).

Compare this to stuff like Everything..

Re: Skepticism after Windows 10 search failure

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Of all the things I hate about Windows, unified search is the worst. If I want to search the web, I'll search the web--there's an app for that, the browser. Let me just search my hard drive, please. I didn't experience this bug, but if I had, I'd be furious that I couldn't search my own local files without somehow getting an internet service involved.

I believe there is a way to disable bing search by setting some flags in the windows registry. I was affected by this bug, and the way to fix it was to disable online search. There's a bunch of articles online on how to do it, eg: https://www.windowslatest.com/2020/02/05/its-not-just-you-wi... Basically have to set HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Search\BingSearchEnabled to 0 and HKEY_CURR…

ShutUp10 lets you turn this on/off easily with a toggle, as with MANY other "features" of Windows 10 like all the telemetry:

https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10

Re: Skepticism after Windows 10 search failure

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I don't understand. I don't want my start menu to search my files or the internet or be smart in any way, I just want it to show my installed programs or apps or whatever you want to call them. If I want to search my files I have a program for that, if I want to search the internet I open my browser. Why do we have to over complicate things! Who asked for this?

Advertisers and government agencies ask for this...

Re: Skepticism after Windows 10 search failure

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I don't understand. I don't want my start menu to search my files or the internet or be smart in any way, I just want it to show my installed programs or apps or whatever you want to call them. If I want to search my files I have a program for that, if I want to search the internet I open my browser. Why do we have to over complicate things! Who asked for this?

they failed to find a good place for that search, but the feature, itself, is extremely valuable.

on the mac, for example, spotlight search is part of things i do on autopilot. that's how they should have presented that search functionality. a keyboard shortcut, big search field in the middle of the screen... cortana shouldn't have been the front focus here...

i still use it though. would be sad to see it go! i use it to see where stuff and settings that were obvious and easy to find before are now hidden.

Re: Skepticism after Windows 10 search failure

#30
post #7

Microsoft doesn’t build Windows with the consumer as the priority. Microsoft first, then big business, then advertisers. I used to find this aggravating but it’s better to accept it and move on.

To me, Microsoft's PR message has always amounted to "Windows users are either too busy, dumb, disorganized, impatient, or unfamiliar with their systems to know how to do things, so we try to think for them." It was amazing how much more productive and powerful I felt switching to Linux. Like, I could suddenly FIX problems without having to install some sketchy .exe or driver. Can't understand why people stick with W…

> Can't understand why people stick with Windows when they have other options.

Gaming, support, decades of technical debt, and familiar user interfaces/workflows for non-technical users.

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