We've all now got houses full of IoT devices (Smart TVs, Webcams, etc.) that have serious security problems and don't get proper updates because the vendors lack incentive. This is a disincentive, and totally the wrong way to go.
France fines Apple €25M for iOS software that slowed down older iPhones
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Re: France fines Apple €25M for iOS software that slowed down older iPhones
#132To quote the regulator:
> were not informed that installing iOS updates (10.2.1 and 11.2) could slow down their devices [...] committed the crime of deceptive commercial practice by omission" and had agreed to pay the fine.
This is kinda clickbait reporting from the BBC. Which depressingly has become more the norm in the last few years.
Re: France fines Apple €25M for iOS software that slowed down older iPhones
#133This is so dumb. Apple has a lot of flaws but old hardware support certainly isn’t one of them. Firstly, they only slowed down older phones to prevent them from crashing as they had less and less reliable battery draw. Secondly, Apple’s support for legacy phone hardware is the best in the market. It’s absurd that they’re being punished for this.
The phones do "get slower" - and this is annoying af.
Re: France fines Apple €25M for iOS software that slowed down older iPhones
#134I thought they did this before because of the degraded battery over time.
Re: France fines Apple €25M for iOS software that slowed down older iPhones
#135Fined $27 million. Made $64 billion in the last 3 months. So that's about 1 hour of profit. I'm sure they've been taught a lesson they'll never forget. EDIT: as pointed out below, that was revenue not profit. But apple make so much damn profit it's not as crazy different as it would be for most companies. So it's more like 2.5 hours.
Re: France fines Apple €25M for iOS software that slowed down older iPhones
#136I thought they did this before because of the degraded battery over time.
Re: France fines Apple €25M for iOS software that slowed down older iPhones
#137Apple was actually fined for failure to INFORM consumers that the update would slow down their phone. To quote the regulator: > were not informed that installing iOS updates (10.2.1 and 11.2) could slow down their devices [...] committed the crime of deceptive commercial practice by omission" and had agreed to pay the fine. This is kinda clickbait reporting from the BBC. Which depressingly has become more the norm in…
Re: France fines Apple €25M for iOS software that slowed down older iPhones
#138Earlier quoted context omitted.
Apple throttling phones to preserve battery life was the right thing to do. Doing it without telling users their batteries were expired and causing their phone to slow down was the wrong thing to do. Whether that merits a $27m fine is debatable.
I might be one of the few, but I think it does warrant it. People buy devices and expect them to work and keep working. If the battery had an issue then it should have flagged up that the phone was saving battery life and that they should replace the battery. We can't keep throwing away devices like this; it isn't good for the environment. Why do I think it is important to be told? My old iPad has almost overnight sl…
Re: France fines Apple €25M for iOS software that slowed down older iPhones
#139Background context: This is because Apple throttled down the maximum CPU speed of phones whose batteries were old/weak. The (claimed) intent was to prevent old phones from suddenly shutting off while running CPU-intensive apps like games.
Now, it's possible Apple throttled more than they needed to but the basic issue is very real.
Re: France fines Apple €25M for iOS software that slowed down older iPhones
#140This is so dumb. Apple has a lot of flaws but old hardware support certainly isn’t one of them. Firstly, they only slowed down older phones to prevent them from crashing as they had less and less reliable battery draw. Secondly, Apple’s support for legacy phone hardware is the best in the market. It’s absurd that they’re being punished for this.
This is true, however, their software is slowing down the phone. I recently compared the iPhone 7 with iOS10 vs iPhone 7 with iOS13: the camera app got slower and is shooting blurry pictures often, the gallery app is slower and less responsive, the keyboard takes a significant time to open now vs. always instantly available. The phones do "get slower" - and this is annoying af.
May be it should not be one-click, as it causes security issues and user must understand the implications. But there must be a way for official downgrade.